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#1 kcooper95

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 09:28 AM

Hey guys, figured this would be the best place to post. I believe my computer is under performing as Ive had a massive decrease in fps in all games. my specs are:

AMD HD Radeon 6850 series (saphire) PCI-E

AMD Phenom II X 4 965 Processor @ 3.4 ghz

Hyper X Fury DDR3 @ 4gb each x2

MS-7640 VER:3.0 AMD-990FX Socket-AM3+ 32Gb DDR3-1600MHz 24-Pin ATX Motherboard

1 TB barracuda HDD

Microsoft windows 7 Home premium (64 bit)

 

Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply

 

 

I have already attempted to clean out my pc entirely with compressed air and saw a slight increase in performance, however it is still noticeable that there has been a significant loss of fps. Do you guys think this is a hardware issue? Or is my rig just out of date? I built it about 4 years ago now and Im currently struggling to stay above 100 fps in CS:GO on the lowest settings @ 1920x1080



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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:05 PM

I am a bit confused, are you playing new games that you have not played before or losing fps in the same games you played 4 years ago? New games require faster and faster hardware. Expect to lose performance with newer instensive games as your computer ages, this is normal.

 

From what I can see your video card is your biggest limiting factor though the 965 cpu is starting to get dated and certain cpu heavy games may become an issue, GTA4 is one that comes to mind that is rather cpu heavy. Your ram could be bumped up to 8gb if you ran games that needed more than 4gb, remember windows is using some as well so games may only have ~2gb depending on what you have running on the system.

 

Your power supply being 450 watts may be another factor to consider if you wish to upgrade your video card.

 

One last thing: 100fps is overkill. Try to get the game to run at about 30-60fps average and call it good there. Most monitors only have a 60hz refresh rate anyway so running at 100fps isn't doing anything for you.


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:08 PM

Sorry, I am playing newer games, but CS:GO in particular is not a very performance heavy game especially on low settings, in addition ive noticed the decrease in other games that I have played when I originally built this rig. Also, I guess I was unclear but I do have 8gb of ram, I have (2) 4gb fury and my PSU is 750 watts (Antec TruePower) sorry for the confusion... lastly, do you have any suggestions for an upgraded video card/cpu that would a step up but at in an affordable range ?


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:09 PM

I ran CS:GO like a champ with similar hardware. What are your temps at? If the computer is older you may need to reapply thermal paste.



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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:11 PM

Temperature was an issue a few months ago, however replaced the cpu fan and also reapplied thermal paste.. now I havent had any issues with temperature 


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:11 PM

I read your ram post incorrectly that was my mistake.

 

Affordable is a good question, what is your budget?

 

I might recommend the 960 (nvidia) or 970/980 if you have the cash.

 

If you have lost performance in the same game, my guess would be a software issue, possibly something running in the background using resources. Anti-virus software, viruses, malware, those all might slow down a computer and cause performance losses.


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:13 PM

Try a clean install of CS:GO. Check drivers. Or upgrade if you have the cash.



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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:17 PM

If you need something cheap I found that the 750ti can be found for very cheap. just got one for $75 off of a friend brand new in-box. It has 2gb GDDR5 vram which would help at higher resolutions.



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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:18 PM

If you have a budget of ~200 I'd go with this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487093&cm_re=960-_-14-487-093-_-Product


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:20 PM

 

Would that be a significant upgrade in your opinion ? 



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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:22 PM

I will try to find some benchmarks.


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:26 PM

This benchmark might be ok to look at http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/1790-nvidia-geforce-gtx-960-game-fps-benchmark-review/Page-2. Consider that your 6850 is about 20% slower than the 7850.


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:31 PM

This benchmark might be ok to look at http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/1790-nvidia-geforce-gtx-960-game-fps-benchmark-review/Page-2. Consider that your 6850 is about 20% slower than the 7850.

 

looks pretty good, thanks alot for the help ill take this into consideration!



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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:33 PM

I would still look for software issues if you have lost performance in a specific game without changing any settings in that game, if your temps are not a problem, and you never have any crashes, I would suspect the hardware is fine. If you have upgraded monitors lately to a higher resolution, that would be another cause for lost performance.


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