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Is Virus Protection & Firewall Really Necessary


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#1 rlight

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 09:17 PM

Hi,

Today I had a discussion with a couple of co-workers regarding virus protection and firewalls for home computers. They both said that you only need virus protection if you don't download from the web and you don't need a firewall if you are not on the internet very often. So, neither of them have VP or a firewall.

I have both of these on my home computer and I would appreciate your thoughts on this subject.

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 10:28 PM

you only need virus protection if you don't download from the web


Downloading is where most of the risk is. Tho' you can infect your PC with malware just by visiting certain sites.. Perhaps if you only and (never stray) go to truly secure sites you may get away without an Antivirus program ... But ....
A firewall is a must. You not only need security while your browsing ,but also from some one browsing your PC.

Use a Firewall - I can not stress how important it is that you use a Firewall on your computer. Without a firewall your computer is succeptible to being hacked and taken over. I am very serious about this and see it happen almost every day with my clients. Simply using a Firewall in its default configuration can lower your risk greatly.

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 10:33 PM

Both of your co-workers are accidents waiting to happen.
If your connected to the internet for any length of time, for whatever reason, you run the risk of becoming infected.
It only takes seconds.
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Posted 26 June 2006 - 11:50 PM

To add to the comments above, several experiments have been done that allow unprotected computers access to the internet. In almost every case (and this experiement does not include active use of the internet) these computers become infected within two days.
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Posted 27 June 2006 - 04:02 AM

Hi rlight. Your coworkers are IDIOTS. Disregard anything they may tell you about computers as they obviously know nothing.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 04:29 AM

Where do you work??? What coworkers are they?????
Cos I cant believe they said that!!!!!!
I mean its an accident ready to happen as mentioned above!!!!
Of course your system doesnt need to be buffed up if u dont download loads or use the net regarly but still.....
it only takes a little to get infected so the very basics are required in my opinion


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Posted 27 June 2006 - 01:25 PM

Hello rlight,

Well everything everyone has said here is correct,so go with them, DO NOT listen to your co-workers!

It is because of opinions and self-belief similar to that of your co-workers, that malware and virus' exist so easily today. If people only took 5mins of there time to read what is VITAL software to running and keeping there PC's safe, then we would be on a massive step to preventing malware from even knowing we are here.

Ignorance is bliss.............until you find out your bank details have been wiped along with your account money, you have to pay a queens ransome to get your PC fixed , the hackers stolen all of your personal details such as pictures and video,address and friends and family details. They take over your PC by making it a Zombie to help in there crimes, whilst downloading porn and popups on to your desktop.They....................well i think you get the idea, and anyone, not just your co-workers, should take note.
I cant even begin to start just what can be done by hackers.

There best friends in helping with there crimes,are those who believe that an anti-virus is all you need,and you never know, they may just show there appreciation by taking every last penny your account holds.

Stay safe,and browse happy!

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 03:58 PM

Hay there rlight
You can tell tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber this for me
"Flies dance operas to your wisdom"
keep what you got and keep your av updated.
you should look into other anti-malware as well.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 08:49 PM

Thanks to all of you for your imput. I have no intention of going without virus protection or a firewall. I have tried to follow BleepingComputers guidelines for keeping my PC safe. I wanted your imput to help me educate my coworkers or anyone else that believes that no protection is necessary.

Currently on my PC I use AVG Free Edition for virus protection and ZoneAlarm for a firewall, I used to have Mcafee. What do you think about this? Is AVG and ZoneAlarm enough protection or do I need more.

Thanks again
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Posted 27 June 2006 - 09:01 PM

Hello,
Even if your not online at all, having a firewall is necessary. People can hack in and steal personal information from your machine. And antivirus programs are a necessity too since hackers can put viruses in your PC.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 09:02 PM

It is a start but just to give you an idea, I have over a dozen programs for security.
AV, Firewall, Winpatrol, Spybot (strongly recommend), Spyware blaster, Spyware Guard, ProcessGUard,Spysweeper, Windows Defender,And window washer(or CCleaner on close) and thats not counting the ones that aren't always running:AdwareSE, Ewido

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 10:29 PM

So, trickydick,

Two questions. First, I use Spybot and Ad-Aware. AdAware regularly detects spyware, Spybot even with the newest updates never detects any spyware. Why would this be?

Secondly, all the protection that you have on your computer, do have to buy it or is free? Or both?

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 10:33 PM

Using 1 Antivirus and 1 firewall is correct. But you definately should run several FREE Spyware programs in conjunction. There is a BC list HERE
Scroll down to the Spyware Removal section and install those. Don't forget to read the section in the link provided called,Simple steps to keep your computer secure

Edited by boopme, 27 June 2006 - 10:34 PM.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 10:38 PM

So, trickydick,

Two questions. First, I use Spybot and Ad-Aware. AdAware regularly detects spyware, Spybot even with the newest updates never detects any spyware. Why would this be?

Secondly, all the protection that you have on your computer, do have to buy it or is free? Or both?

rlight

That's why you need several programs they don't find all by themselves ,some find things others do not.
The progs in the link above contains excellent free progs.
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Posted 27 June 2006 - 11:19 PM

BOOPME,

So, I've downloaded SpywareBlaster and Winpatrol (I already use AdAware and Spybot). Dp I need more of these?? Also, do I need more than one Virus Protection program and more than one Firewall??

Thanks for all your help
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