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#1 ieatcrayonzs

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 11:31 AM

I just assembled a new build:

AMD FX6300
AMD A780-MB motherboard
8g ddr-3 1600 stick
1tb seagate barracuda (Os is running off this)
refurbished 4tb harddrive off ebay, a white label 4TB 3.5" 7200 WL4000GSA6472E
AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB GDDR3
Fresh windows 8.1 install

I assembled everything with no problem. Both hard drives seem to be working well. The os is running fine, but the overall computer seems a bit slow to me. I was thinking that going from a dual core to a 6 core, and from 4g of ram to 8, that I would have way more speed. I would say it's actually slower than my old computer. I installed the motherboard drivers (although I think it was just sound) and the video card drivers. Everything else is showing up to date in hardware management. The only things I've installed are firefox and mutorrent. There is no virus software, nothing. Once I'm on a page it's fine, but opening firefox or opening new tabs is slow and sometimes I get "not responding" for a moment before it will let me click anything. That's with only firefox running and no other programs. (mutorrent isn't on in the background). Anything flash, or facebook seems to be the worst.

My old computer:
-AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ 3.01 GHz
-ECS MCP61PM-AM DUAL CORE AM2
-4g of RAM
-Windows 7
-1tb seagate Hard drive (moved to the new build)
-NVIDIA GeForce 96000 GT (went out and installed: AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB GDDR3 - transferred to the new build)



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 12:01 PM

Has a surface test been run on the White Label drive? I have acquired a few of these for DVR installs and 1 out of 4 was janky.

Disconnect the White Label and see if response improves.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:30 PM

When I first installed the os I checked for updates and nothing came up (which I thought was weird). I just ran it again and 77 came up. I installed them all, but it isn't running any faster. I ran window's error checks on both HD's and no errors came back. I'm doing a defrag and optimize on the drives now.



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 05:54 PM

Hi there.. have a look here at the comparison of those two chips

 

For single threaded applications you will not see a big diff.  And unless the multi threaded application (the program that can ' see and use more than one core ' efficiently uses the multi core of your new chip you've technically only upgraded by .5 ghz.  I can't imagine anyone being able to tell the difference by naked eye of .5.

 

Now take a look at your ' New ' system compared to a I7

 

You would have seen ' or felt ' much more of a difference jumping into the Intel bandwagon.  Now I have no problem saying that I am an Intel fanboy... and there is NOTHING wrong with AMD but the numbers don't lie.

 

You would probably be able to eek more performance out of your computer if you were to install and SSD as the OS drive.



#5 ieatcrayonzs

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 06:38 PM

So why would it be running slower than my old system? I ran windows updates 3 times, and it isn't running any faster. I'm not gaming or running any intensive programs. It's just simple web browsing, and it's so laggy.



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 07:05 PM

Install the fast Windows and backup crucial drivers for pending install.
I would bet it was a simple driver issue.... This new s*** is buggy at best but can be bested.
Prolly FSB or video, IMO. Somewhere chip set related.

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 08:03 PM

Sorry bludgared. I'm not sure what you are telling me to do.



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 10:34 PM

Ideas!!  +Check CPU temps, bios settings.  Right click Computer then Properties everything look correct?


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#9 ieatcrayonzs

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 11:49 PM

Everything looks right in the system properties. Showing the right processor/speed/ram/8.1 64x

 

I double checked the temp, it's good. What should I be looking for in the bios?



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 11:54 PM

Q: are you using old mother board ? bios may need updating
may have bios settings for more cores
check memory speed in bios
get a SSD this will speed it up

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Posted 18 February 2015 - 12:00 AM

The motherboard is brand new, it was bought with the cpu already installed. I will check the bios in the morning and post back.



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Posted 18 February 2015 - 12:00 AM

just for fun
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%206000%2B%20-%20ADV6000IAA5DO%20(ADV6000DOBOX).html
"AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ specifications



General information



Type CPU / Microprocessor
Market segment Desktop
Family AMD Athlon 64 X2
Model number ? 6000+
CPU part numbers ADV6000IAA5DO is an OEM/tray microprocessor
ADV6000DOBOX is a boxed microprocessor

Stepping code NAAFG
Frequency ? 6000+ (rated)
3100 MHz (real)
Clock multiplier ? 15.5
Package 940-pin organic microPGA
Socket Socket AM2

Architecture / Microarchitecture



Microarchitecture K8
Processor core ? Brisbane
Core stepping ? G2
Manufacturing process 0.065 micron
221 million transistors
Data width 64 bit
The number of cores 2
The number of threads 2
Floating Point Unit Integrated
Level 1 cache size ? 2 x 64 KB 2-way set associative instruction caches
2 x 64 KB 2-way set associative data caches
Level 2 cache size ? 2 x 512 KB exclusive 16-way set associative caches
Physical memory 1 TB
Virtual memory 256 TB this may be your problem
Multiprocessing Uniprocessor
Features ◾ MMX instructions
◾ 3DNow! technology
◾ SSE / Streaming SIMD Extensions
◾ SSE2 / Streaming SIMD Extensions 2
◾ SSE3 / Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
◾ AMD64 / AMD 64-bit technology ?
◾ EVP / Enhanced Virus Protection ?
◾ VT / Virtualization technology ?

Low power features ◾ Halt state
◾ Stop Grant state ?
◾ Cool'n'Quiet technology


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#13 ieatcrayonzs

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Posted 18 February 2015 - 12:06 AM

You ran the specs from my old board.

 

I put AMD A780-MB as my new board in my op because that's what was listed in my email invoice, but I looked at the actual board and it's an asrock n68-gs4fx

 

I posted the old computer specs as a comparison to the new build, trying to find out why this one is slower than my old build.


Edited by ieatcrayonzs, 18 February 2015 - 12:08 AM.


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Posted 18 February 2015 - 02:42 AM

The motherboard is brand new, it was bought with the cpu already installed. I will check the bios in the morning and post back.

Check to make sure you aren't running a weird setup in the bios and load optmized defaults. Go back and check to see if your board has a place to select ram speeds or cpu speeds and make sure they are where they should be according to spec. Disable unnecessary boot devices that you aren't using. Flash your bios to its latest version. Perform a clean boot with msconfig by disabling non microsoft services and startup programs.
I'm not a huge fan of Asrocks. I've built out several and had various problems with them coming with issues or being doa.

Also many boards have options for your hard drives and sata devices. Make sure you're set properly and are running ide only on the last or last 2 sata ports and that your dvdrw is connected to the last port as well

Reinstall your OS fresh(you should get an ssd)

Edited by ChiefTech, 18 February 2015 - 02:55 AM.





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