i have been looking for a good programmers forum the past few days, from facebook groups, to yahoo groups, to smaller communities based out of non tech forums. Finally decided to just google one and found bleeping computer. I have always been very passionate about computers in general and after a few years of doing different jobs have decided to try and earn a degree. I wanted to start with programming, and was informed to start with java since it is so widely used. The first book i picked up was Java for dummies by Doug Lowe. I had just picked it up and started thumbing through it when it recommended "Java 2 for dummies" if you were pretty new to programming in general. Anywho, I wanted to give java programming a shot on my own before dedicating myself to a degree in it, if i do not enjoy it i may try for a certificate in software security or something else, just trying to narrow down a field that i would enjoy. Back to my question though, I have been playing around some with Python and i found it to be pretty interesting but i feel i skipped some programming basics somewhere. All of the tutorials i have checked out so far have included strings/loops and various commands for doing math, but where does one start with developing a program ( and no i do not mean the 'hello world' program lol)? How do you develope a GUI with code? Should i try to find the Java 2 for dummies book, if it really is more for beginners? or should i be fine with the book i have? should i try and find open source java programs and look at the coding and variables they use and learn from them?
Any help at all is greatly appreciated. Sorry for the wall of text, just an eager person looking to get started with programming.