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#1 Thing5000

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 04:21 PM

A few years ago I bought a computer and have been upgrading it over about 2 years. I have a bit of knowledge with computers but I am having a bit of trouble with it now. I upgraded the video card to a Gigabyte GTX 660 Windforce and processor to an Intel I5-3470 3.2 Ghz. Before I got the processor I used the gtx 660 but my computer kept locking up (everything would just stop but the computer would still run) and I always needed to turn it off by holding the power button. I thought it may have been the video card so I swapped it back for the old one I had (GT 630) and waited till I got a new processor, thinking that may fix it.

 

I am at a loss now though as it still crashes every so often with the new processor. I checked the temperature of the CPU and the video card and nothing is wrong. they don't overheat before it locks up, nor does it show any signs of it doing anything to cause it. it also seems to be random as it crashed on a game once but after a reset I could play the game with no problem.

 

CPU: Intel i5-3470

MOBO: CM6730

RAM: 2 X 4GB DDR3

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660

OS: Win 7 Ultimate 64bit



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 06:06 PM

Try Runnung Ubuntu form a flash drive and maybe that would stop it from crashing... i would definently try Ubuntu from a Flash Drive... if you have a spar HDD try wiping it and installing Ubuntu on it as a temporary fix


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Posted 30 December 2014 - 07:44 PM

Just a question but is it possible that my motherboard is the cause?

I searched for solution to the problem for a while thinking the video card was the problem and found nothing of use to me.

Is it possible for a motherboard to be incompatible with a video card? as in the video card plugs in but may cause some problems?



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 08:13 PM

 

Just a question but is it possible that my motherboard is the cause?

Have you tried to run the PC without a video card? If not try removing the card and see if your PC will boot with the onboard graphic's.

 

 

 

Try Runnung Ubuntu form a flash drive and maybe that would stop it from crashing... i would definently try Ubuntu from a Flash Drive... if you have a spar HDD try wiping it and installing Ubuntu on it as a temporary fix

What is wrong with booting from a Live disk? There is no need to " Wipe " anything.

 

 

 

 

 

To create a Live Ubuntu Disk.

 

1.  Place a blank CD or DVD in the tray of your optical drive and close the tray.
 
2.  After you have downloaded the ISO image you want to burn right click on the Start orb, then choose Windows Explorer.
 
3.  When Explorer opens click on Downloads in the left pane.  Scroll down till you find the ISO file you want and double click on it.  Click on Burn Disk Image.
 
4.  In the image below you will see Disk burner:, this should be set to the optical drive you want to use.  Click on Verify disc after burning if you want to Windows to verity the disc image after burn.  Click on burn.
 
burndiskimage1_zpsb502b181.png
 
5.  In the image below you can see that the green progress bar, when the image is finished burning the bar will be filled.
 
burndiskimage2_zps17a9d6ff.png
 
6.  After the image has completed being burned click on Close.

 

You may need to reset BIOS so your PC can boot from CD/DVD. Do you know how to do this?


Edited by NickAu, 30 December 2014 - 08:15 PM.

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 08:46 PM

 

 

Just a question but is it possible that my motherboard is the cause?

Have you tried to run the PC without a video card? If not try removing the card and see if your PC will boot with the onboard graphic's.

 

 

 

Try Runnung Ubuntu form a flash drive and maybe that would stop it from crashing... i would definently try Ubuntu from a Flash Drive... if you have a spar HDD try wiping it and installing Ubuntu on it as a temporary fix

What is wrong with booting from a Live disk? There is no need to " Wipe " anything.

 

 

 

 

 

To create a Live Ubuntu Disk.

 

1.  Place a blank CD or DVD in the tray of your optical drive and close the tray.
 
2.  After you have downloaded the ISO image you want to burn right click on the Start orb, then choose Windows Explorer.
 
3.  When Explorer opens click on Downloads in the left pane.  Scroll down till you find the ISO file you want and double click on it.  Click on Burn Disk Image.
 
4.  In the image below you will see Disk burner:, this should be set to the optical drive you want to use.  Click on Verify disc after burning if you want to Windows to verity the disc image after burn.  Click on burn.
 
burndiskimage1_zpsb502b181.png
 
5.  In the image below you can see that the green progress bar, when the image is finished burning the bar will be filled.
 
burndiskimage2_zps17a9d6ff.png
 
6.  After the image has completed being burned click on Close.

 

You may need to reset BIOS so your PC can boot from CD/DVD. Do you know how to do this?

 

instead of windows disk imager use Rufus... i tried using android x86 with that ISO tool and i got errors... i ould use Rufus... it needs no signatures


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Posted 30 December 2014 - 08:48 PM

oh and theres nothing wrong with a live disk... just that he may want a more permanent setup until he gets the parts needed to fix it.


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Posted 30 December 2014 - 09:23 PM

First lets see what Thing5000 reports regarding trying to boot the PC with onboard Graphics.

Some problems are more complicated than others and require additional work to isolate the issue. So, try not to overwhelm the user with possible conflicting information during the troubleshooting process. Wait for the user to report back that step 1 is done and the result before suggesting anything new,


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Posted 30 December 2014 - 09:25 PM

Good idea :D (not being sarcastic there)


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Posted 30 December 2014 - 10:24 PM

Tried removing the card and now the computer won't turn back on...

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 10:56 PM

Thing5000,  :welcome: to BC Forums!

 

I see that you have some issues going on & trying to figure out what. 

 

What model of PSU did you install? Didn't see it in your specs. May want to test that first, to ensure you have a good one. Secondly, a bad one can take a lot of other components with it, but lets hope this isn't the case here. 

 

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 11:02 PM

The PSU is a fs8003 acbel. Power is going to the PSU. Gonna see if something happened to the power button wire.

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 11:12 PM

Nothing looks wrong. Power is getting to the motherboard and the PSU shows a green light but it won't turn on...

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 11:14 PM

I see, 625W should run that setup fine, depending on how much the power the GPU is using. Looks like one that Lenovo uses on some of their models. 

 

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-acbel-625w-server-power-supply-FS8003/1215397917.html

 

Looking at your GPU, my 460W one should run it fine, 450W is recommended, though this may vary between different brands using the same chip. 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130825

 

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Edited by cat1092, 30 December 2014 - 11:15 PM.

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 11:20 PM

Finally got it to start up again.
Now am testing without the video card and with Intel graphics

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 11:25 PM

Makes it passed starting windows and then shows a black screen but I was able to login. Can't see anything onscreen




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