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#1 phil09

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 12:44 AM

Now I am not certain which forum to put this in. Well I put it on here to start with. I am trying to resurrect an old laptop. Dual boot it has Ubuntu and Windows XP. Has GRUB. It first has a habit of shutting down after a little while for reason (4 minutes or so). If I take the hard-drive out it holds the error no reboot, so presume not a motherboard problem. Well the next problem is the Windows XP error with problem with Autochk not found..so that is corrupted.  But well I guess why I am on Linux forum I can't boot to CD/DVD from GRUB, Linux people seem to use GRUB more. Don't say change BIOS setting to boot to CD/DVD it is already set it goes to GRUB, I think Windows is set to 2nd Partition. What do people recommend...remove grub? So I can get access to a DVD. Or is there a way to set up GRUB to Boot to CD/DVD I think not sure it is not GRUB 2(how can I check?). 



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Posted 20 December 2014 - 01:59 AM

Hi Phil09 :welcome: to BC.

Let's see if we can help you. Let's deal with this first.

 

It first has a habit of shutting down after a little while for reason (4 minutes or so). If I take the hard-drive out it holds the error no reboot, so presume not a motherboard problem.

Do you have access to a second PC?

 

Can you please download Puppy Linux Tahr Pup.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-tahr/iso/tahrpup%20-6.0-CE/tahr-6.0-CE_PAE.iso


 

Now burn that to CD/DVD as a bootable ISO

How to burn or write a CD/DVD image or ISO - Bleeping ...

 

Remove the hard drive from the PC, Removing the Hard Drive for now eliminates it and grub from the equation. I just want to see if everything works.

When that is done place the CD/DVD in the CD/DVD drive and reboot, Now here you may have to set the PC to boot from CD in BIOS.

Because Puppy Linux runs entirely from ram it should boot, Once booted look around Puppy go on line just mess with it for a while,  say 20 minutes, And then report back here with the following please.

 

PC Type.

Processor name and type.

How much ram do you have?

Any Video cards?

What Ubuntu do you have? Eg 12.04?

 

 

Some problems are more complicated than others and require additional work to isolate the issue. So, try not to overwhelm the user with possible conflicting information during the troubleshooting process. Wait for the OP to report back that step 1 is done and the result before suggesting anything new,  Stay on topic.

 

Unless you know exactly what the problem is and how to fix it.

 

Thanks

Nick.

 

 

 

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 02:30 AM

phil09,  :welcome: to BC Forums!

 

Though you should carefully follow the steps that my colleague Nick provided above, are both of the OS's shutting down in this manner? Or does XP simply not run? 

 

The reason I'm asking is because if XP isn't running, you'll have to repair it before the rest. Normally XP is on the 1st partition, being the oldest, and the newer Linux OS on the 2nd. Ideally, there should also be an XP Recovery Console for that OS. Thing is, this would be XP issues & that issue would get more exposure in the XP section.

 

 

 

Well the next problem is the Windows XP error with problem with Autochk not found..so that is corrupted. 

 

Plus, this is the Linux section of the forum, if we assisted one member with XP, the door becomes wide open for everyone with XP dual boot systems to post their XP issues here & we don't work that way. Please note that I'm not running you off this forum as far as your Linux issue goes, it's just that we don't provide assistance with XP repairs here. 

 

As far as your boot order goes, it doesn't matter if the optical drive is first, I have Linux Mint on installed on 4 computers where it (optical drive) is 1st in the boot order & USB drive 2nd. 

 

We'll gladly assist you with your Ubuntu issue in this section, once you get your XP issue fixed in the other, that is, if you want to continue to run the OS. Do you really need XP? It's as secure as a maximum security prison with the keys hanging within reach of the inmates. Seriously, and it's going to get a lot worse. Once the monthly MRT tool update goes away after July, game over. However that's a decision (& risk) that you must decide on. 

 

Once you decide on what to do with XP & make repairs if wanted, then we can gladly assist with the Linux issue. 

 

Hope to see you back & soon.  :)

 

Best of Luck,

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 12:20 AM

Plus, this is the Linux section of the forum, if we assisted one member with XP, the door becomes wide open for everyone with XP dual boot systems to post their XP issues here & we don't work that way. Please note that I'm not running you off this forum as far as your Linux issue goes, it's just that we don't provide assistance with XP repairs here.

Let me clarify that statement.

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