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Posted 27 November 2004 - 10:17 AM
Posted 27 November 2004 - 10:57 AM
Posted 27 November 2004 - 01:14 PM
I think it's nice to hear of someone having few problems. A case of "whatever works, do it". SP2 install should be done, if/when it is, with everything off, including system restore & browsers. Its seems to be the firewalls that can foul up the system-wide changes SP2 does. It is, after all, a cumulative patch including 40+ of 'em in additional to several modifications to the default status of starting services & so it involves hundreds of registry key changes. Some software written to run without those patches doesn't run well in the newer "tightened up" environment.
Just wanted opinions on the fact that I am hanging back on installation. Thankyou
Posted 27 November 2004 - 02:48 PM
Posted 27 November 2004 - 07:07 PM
Yes, I do. Two months of experimenting & a lotta thinking has led me to that conclusion. First comes the OS, then the programs using the OS. Experimenting with them would logically be the next step. If they don't work, then you either keep them & scrap the OS or vice-versa. Goin' back to the days when your programs worked at the expense of the updated OS may be a perfectly legit option, but not the best one. Consider the actions taken by Microsoft, software writers everywhere & cracks, too. Every day from now on.
You really think it should be installed
Edited by phawgg, 27 November 2004 - 07:12 PM.
Posted 28 November 2004 - 05:41 PM
Posted 29 November 2004 - 04:47 AM
For several years you use programs written for winXP, but winXP keeps changing. Some of those programs do also, but are you getting each new improvement? To be honest, the original winXP does not operate the same as today's version. Its that simple.
What I understand from this and please correct me if I am mistaken is that a lot of future programs, updates etc. will likely assume that one has updated to SP2 and those programs, updates etc. may not function properly. And this could cause problems.
Right now I am only on dial-up and thus only use the xp firewall and have not had problems to date.
As long as the etc. means you know what you're doin' everytime you do it, with everything you do it with on your PC, offline & online... you'll be OK. I don't always.
an individual who doesn't do a lot of surfing, downloading of music etc.
We have to do that everyday, with most every person who posts with a problem. It isn't easy... most people use winXP, and it's a huge set of variables when you consider all the programs that can be put ontop of it. IMHO. I have lists containing hundreds of files that work OK with the OS. As many that don't, too. Just as many that might, depending on what they are in combination with. My lists are a small fraction of what is available and in use. Dozens are added daily. Thats is the reality I perceive.
...trying to figure out why certain things that worked before won't now
Probably not. You'll learn what you need to know here. Just order the CD free from Microsoft. You'll get it mailed to you before Christmas. Copy to CD your files to be on the safe side. Turn off all your programs, stay offline while you put the CD in and let about an hour go by. When it's done, read the helps, make a few decisions. Start your programs up one at a time to make sure they work. You'll have a new restore point set when you install SP2. If a program doesn't work like it used to exit it, uninstall it and re-install it. (which is doubtful in your case, considering you don't download a lot online to experiment with, unlike those who do on a regular basis). Before you do it pay attention to the details of the programs you use, so you can more easily determine exactly how they work for comparison's sake should you need to. Find out about your options from the people who made the programs you use by googling them ahead of time. No techie can do any better.
I believe I should get a knowlegeable techie to do it for me
Edited by phawgg, 29 November 2004 - 05:04 AM.
Posted 29 November 2004 - 08:39 AM
Posted 29 November 2004 - 11:20 AM
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Posted 29 November 2004 - 07:36 PM
I've tried three, each for a month or so. ZA gave me problems, Kerio uses quite a lot of resources & I have a couple minor issues with it, so that makes Sygate my choice. All are well thought of. I also had Outpost at one time, and another I've forgotten at the moment... be sure and read the manuals that are separate downloads. Don't be too concerned if ya' don't understand it all. I don't either. In time I guess it'll all fall into place. I use dialup, too.
...contemplating changing my firewall to zone alarm, do you have any comments on this program.
Edited by phawgg, 29 November 2004 - 07:37 PM.
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