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Mcafee livesafe worth it?


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#1 kygiacomo

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Posted 19 November 2014 - 03:11 PM

hello all im new to this forum..i just recently spent 700$ on a Dell desktop and it come with mcafee live safe..i called and spoke with DELL if this service will keep my computer from getting infected as long as i dont do dumb stuff and DL links that are fishy etcetc..i will just be useing this for home use,basic web surfing,facebook, and research so what would u guys recommend for a internet security suite? thanks all 



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Posted 19 November 2014 - 03:39 PM

And what did DELL reply?Do you have Subscription for this life safe or it is trial?



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Posted 19 November 2014 - 03:46 PM

And what did DELL reply?Do you have Subscription for this life safe or it is trial?

they told me they rec mcafee but im always skeptical about beleiveing everthing a saler will say..i have a 30 day subscription that come with this desktop and all the reviews i have read give conflitching info..some has mcafee 2015 live safe as #1 and other at #10..i just want something that will protect me from getting anything on this system..i know common sense is the biggest part of getting a virus and i never DL nothing without double and triple checking reviews..i am gonna buy the malwarebytes paid version as well to run along side of whatever internet security suite i choose


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Posted 19 November 2014 - 04:11 PM

McAfee is only famous name and not so good.I don`t like it.You may buy Malwarebytes,Superantispyware and ESET Smart Security.

Also Emsisoft suite.Kaspersky is very good,Bitdefender but in my case caused slow boot and uninstalled it.Also related to Bitdefender - F-Secure,G-data/costs a lot of resources/ and Bullguard I have tried last time.But you must try before buy!Sometimes need to put Malwarebytes or Superantispyware in exclusions.



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Posted 19 November 2014 - 04:54 PM

McAfee is only famous name and not so good.I don`t like it.You may buy Malwarebytes,Superantispyware and ESET Smart Security.

Also Emsisoft suite.Kaspersky is very good,Bitdefender but in my case caused slow boot and uninstalled it.Also related to Bitdefender - F-Secure,G-data/costs a lot of resources/ and Bullguard I have tried last time.But you must try before buy!Sometimes need to put Malwarebytes or Superantispyware in exclusions.

ya i had norton before was a resource hog so didnt renew that..i also had webroot which was actually pretty good and very light on resources but lacks anti spam and i cannot stand to be spammed,been reading great things about bitdefender only thing bad is it takes up 1gb of space and i dont want a sluggish machince anymore after years of hitting enter and watching that dang circle go round and round..im running windows 8.1,i5,3.20 Ghz so speed isnt a issue now that i got this new device..i will test out this trail of mcafee and then also do a trail of eset and Emsisoft per ur advice..i have never heard of the emsisoft until u just posted me it..thanks for ur opinion on this matter as its really important to me to keep this new computer running fast,safe and clean of malware

 If any others can chime in about any experieces with mcafee i would love to hear it


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Posted 19 November 2014 - 06:08 PM

Many OEM manufacturers provide trial versions of anti-virus programs preinstalled on computers as part of their software package. It is not uncommon for a computer manufacturer to partner or enter into an agreement with a well known anti-virus vendor to include their product as part of a marketing strategy for generating revenue. Computer advertisements that say they include anti-virus protection is a selling point for many buyers. When the trial period expires, the user will have to either remove the software or purchase the full version in order to keep using the anti-virus software. Since most folks know very little about computer security and anti-virus software, many tend to keep whatever came with their system when they first purchased it. Thus, the anti-virus vendor recaps the cost of providing the trial version for free.

As a preinstalled product...this also means the anti-virus software most likely will be included on your factory recovery disks. If you ever reformat using the vendor's recovery disks, the anti-virus will be reinstalled as part of the default software that came with your computer.


Although McAfee is as good as any other well known anti-virus program, it requires numerous services and running processes that consume a lot of system resources and often results in complaints of high CPU usage. Anti-virus software components insert themselves deep into the operating systems core where they install kernel mode drivers that load at boot-up and create files/folders/registry entries in various locations. If you do a Google Search you will find there have been numerous complaints about it affecting system performance.

Further McAfee products, like Symantec, are becoming difficult to remove and remnants are often left behind which require the use of a special removal tool, otherwise you may encounter problems installing a replacement anti-virus. To be fair, other vendors are also using removal tools for the same reason. Those issues plus the cost factor are the primary reason many folks look for a free alternative. IMO, McAfee is better utilized in an Enterprise system environment protecting many client computers.
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Posted 19 November 2014 - 07:22 PM

Many OEM manufacturers provide trial versions of anti-virus programs preinstalled on computers as part of their software package. It is not uncommon for a computer manufacturer to partner or enter into an agreement with a well known anti-virus vendor to include their product as part of a marketing strategy for generating revenue. Computer advertisements that say they include anti-virus protection is a selling point for many buyers. When the trial period expires, the user will have to either remove the software or purchase the full version in order to keep using the anti-virus software. Since most folks know very little about computer security and anti-virus software, many tend to keep whatever came with their system when they first purchased it. Thus, the anti-virus vendor recaps the cost of providing the trial version for free.

As a preinstalled product...this also means the anti-virus software most likely will be included on your factory recovery disks. If you ever reformat using the vendor's recovery disks, the anti-virus will be reinstalled as part of the default software that came with your computer.


Although McAfee is as good as any other well known anti-virus program, it requires numerous services and running processes that consume a lot of system resources and often results in complaints of high CPU usage. Anti-virus software components insert themselves deep into the operating systems core where they install kernel mode drivers that load at boot-up and create files/folders/registry entries in various locations. If you do a Google Search you will find there have been numerous complaints about it affecting system performance.

Further McAfee products, like Symantec, are becoming difficult to remove and remnants are often left behind which require the use of a special removal tool, otherwise you may encounter problems installing a replacement anti-virus. To be fair, other vendors are also using removal tools for the same reason. Those issues plus the cost factor are the primary reason many folks look for a free alternative. IMO, McAfee is better utilized in an Enterprise system environment protecting many client computers.

thank you quietman7 for taking the time to post this for me..if u dont mind me asking what protection do u use on ur computers? and also what would u recommend for me considering what i will be doing with my computer? i do agree about symantec being hard to get off the computer..such a pain in the rear for sure! what i really what is something that will keep malware from ever getting on my computer and also avoiding links from general surfing the web just doing research..i dont have a price budget i will pay whatever i have to that will keep my computer clean..once again thank you for writing the above post for me



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Posted 19 November 2014 - 07:36 PM

When I bought my Dell, a little over a year ago, it came with a one year subscription of McAfee LiveSafe pre-installed.  As Quietman 7 pointed out, LiveSafe had numerous processes(6 as I recall) running at all times.  More right after computer boots, consequently increasing boot times.  It has more related services running that aren't readily apparent when viewing the Task Manager.

I've had one BSOD on this Dell in that 'little over a year' time frame.  It was caused by one of McAfee's periodic minor program upgrades that didn't clean up after itself properly.

And it truly is a chore to un-install it cleanly and properly.  There are some steps that should to be taken that aren't mentioned in their un-install guide.  At least I didn't see them.



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Posted 19 November 2014 - 07:46 PM

I use ESET NOD32 Anti-Virus and Emsisoft Anti-Malware on each of my two Windows 7 machines. They leave a small footprint...meaning they are not intrusive and do not utilize a lot of system resources. I have avast! Free Antivirus installed on my wife's notebook.

I also use the following to supplement the above and for additional security:
* Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 2.0 Pro
* SUPERAntiSpyware Free as a separate stand-alone on-demand scanner
* WinPatrol PLUS
* SpywareBlaster
* Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit
* CryptoPrevent

See my comments in Supplementing your Anti-Virus Program with Anti-Malware Tools as to why I recommend Malwarebytes Anti-Malware Pro and Emsisoft Anti-Malware.

For a list of other security tools and resources, please refer to:
* Bleeping Computer's Freeware Replacements For Common Commercial Apps
* Bleeping Computer's List of Anti-virus, Antimalware, And Antispyware Resources

BTW...all three of our HP computers came with Norton Internet Security preinstalled. After activating and setting up, the first thing I did was to remove and replace NIS.
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Posted 19 November 2014 - 07:57 PM

thank you guys..most likely will be uninstalling this 30 day script as soon as i make a decision on which one i want for sure..i will also get the paid version of malwarebytes to run along with whichever security suite i choose..im glad i found this website u guys are truly so helpful to someone like myself that is not the most computer savy guy around..i will be reading alot of stuff on here now from here on out



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Posted 19 November 2014 - 07:58 PM

Yes this is better than independent position. quietman7 will not pay for McAfee I am aware.At the end to see opinion about Norton like mine. :wink:



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Posted 19 November 2014 - 08:03 PM

You're welcome on behalf of the Bleeping Computer community.
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Posted 19 November 2014 - 08:25 PM

Yes this is better than independent position. quietman7 will not pay for McAfee I am aware.At the end to see opinion about Norton like mine. :wink:

i agree..i would rather hear from guys like u all then those ppl that have biased opinions on certain products bc they get paid to do it..



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Posted 19 November 2014 - 09:14 PM

Today have put this WinPatrol along Emsisoft and Malwarebytes.Interesting program.



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Posted 19 November 2014 - 09:20 PM

WinPatrol is a versatile program (originally created by Bill Pytlovany/BillP Studios and now owned by Ruiware, LLC) that monitors important system areas that are commonly altered by malware. This includes the startup groups (registry and startup folder), cookies and active tasks. WinPatrol will alert you to hijackings, malware attacks and critical changes made to your computer without your permission. WinPatrol utilizes a small memory footprint...meaning it is not intrusive and does not utilize a lot of system resources...and offers many features such as:

  • Takes a snapshot of critical system resources and provides alerts if any changes occur.
  • Serves as a Startup Manager which works much better than MSConfig.
  • Tracks programs that have been installed on your system and monitor the location Windows uses to store Uninstall information.
  • Alerts to changes in programs that run at startup.
  • Alerts if another program has removed a Startup program.
  • Has the ability to delay the launch of a Startup program.
  • Detects and alerts to changes in Internet Explorer Home and Search pages.
  • Allows viewing and deletion of Cookies.
  • Monitors toolbars, registry modifications, changes to file extensions and changes to the HOSTS file.

WinPatrol is split into two components. WinPatrol.exe is the real-time component which monitors for system changes and displays the Scotty icon in the taskbar. WinPatrolEx.exe (WinPatrol Explorer) provides the main tabbed interface which allows you to review all rhe various tabs by double-clicking the Scotty icon in the taskbar.

WinPatrol PLUS provides high performance, real-time monitoring and access to the PLUS Info database. It requires a one time fee for all future versions (updates) and a single license is valid on all your personal desktops and laptops. See How To Activate WinPatrol PLUS features.

If you highlight an entry, you can click on the Info button to gather additional information such as a file's full path (location). If you are using the Pro version, you click on PLUSInfo... which will take you to its website to see what they have to say about it. You can also do this by highlighting an entry, right-clicking on it and select PLUSInfo from the context menu.


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