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#1 jimbotoo

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:48 AM

Hello folks   :hello:
 
I am thinking of buying a kyrocera torque xt, its a tough phone
 
watched it on u tube froze in ice, run thru a washer mech. full cycle then dropped fifteen feet to concrete and still worked
 
WOW  :workout:
 
I just spent 3 hours looking on the net for these answers needed below, frankly, you folks have me thinking to never look any where every again on the net but here for answers, cause every thing i got was words without guts and meaning, tho chucking the phone off the roof of a fire house and it was still working fine,,, spoke reams
 
I don't care about "little sister" watching my activity (sic) but i resent being com-modified by these
"Lurker'$" who would ruin my property with infection stuff, so i want to clamp this thing down with a pound of prevention
 
this bleeping store person who helped me knew nothing about these smart phones, she told me not to install anti virus "they mess  phones up sometimes"
 
it comes with Google, Facebook, other junk too.
 
1. Can i delete that "kind" of stuff, save Google as a bookmark, install start page ???
 
2. do i need a fire wall?
 
3  is  kit kat a good os???
 
5 what is a good free android anti virus???
 
4  when you buy apps, do they ad-ware the phone???
 
5 what is a good free android anti virus???
 
6 my sweetheart edits art on her phone with picasa, does that bug her phone?
 
would appreciate all anyone knows, and thankful in advance for same  :thumbup2:
 
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Posted 01 November 2014 - 05:54 AM

Hi Jimbo,

 

Android is a Google OS, so just forget about privacy with Android. You will break it by trying to prevent Big Brother Google from watching. (speaking from experience here)...

 

So to try and address your questions specifically.

  • Forget Startpage, just accept Google owns Android. It is not private, treat it so.
  • No firewall required at this stage. (assuming you use your own carrier)
  • KitKat is the latest and greatest.
  • AVG currently has the best Android AV IMHO. That said, if you do get infected you can just reset your phone. I know of know comprehensive way to remove malware from Android.
  • When you get apps on Android they ask for the right to own just about everything on your phone. You need to be aware of what you agree to, but will still find you "agree" to things that you don't actually agree to. As far as 3rd party adware goes I have no knowledge. So many ads are being crammed down my throat anyway... I have some great apps I use for wireless network testing, mail and loading photos on FTP's and other sites. But I still had to have a Google account and agree to insane stuff to get these. For free of course. There is rarely a paid option that is better than the best free one on Android.
  • Photo editing on a phone is a foreign concept to me... like browsing forums. Still some do it. I can't see it causing problems.

To sum it up I believe Android is the best mobile option at the moment. But you have to be aware of its limitations. Never shop, paypal or do banking on it. Never take a photo you wouldn't want anyone else to see. And be aware that (like FaceBook) you are the product rather than the consumer.

 

I hope this helps a bit.

 

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Edited by TsVk!, 01 November 2014 - 05:58 AM.


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 05:54 AM

jimbotoo:

First off, I don't use Android for anything. According to the "experts" KitKat is good and mostly works well.

If you buy a locked phone, locked meaning tied to one carrier and therefore subsidized and much cheaper, it's likely that you'll get a bunch of carrier-specific apps and wigits that are burned into the firmware and NOT removable. If you can afford it, get an unlocked phone, and a SIM card for your carrier of choice. As always, them that's got, gets.

 

If you use WiFi for internet access, and you use a wireless router, it will likely have a good firewall built in. If you tend to use Starbucks or McDonalds as a WiFi source, then you definitely need a firewall.

 

Google Search Results:

 

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=android+question+answers

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=android+user+question+answers

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=android+antivirus

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=android+firewall

 

Lots of good hits there. You will find many other FAQs about Android that are useful.

Most of the other fora a have good Android sections.

Watch "All About Android" on TWiT.TV here:  http://twit.tv/show/all-about-android

Watch the latest  "Android App Arena" here:    http://twit.tv/show/android-app-arena/19

Many of their other programs, such as "This Week In Google" and "Tech News Today" cover Android, at least in part.

You have a friend in Google.  In me, too!


Edited by davnel, 01 November 2014 - 06:01 AM.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 03:38 PM

jimbotoo:

First off, I don't use Android for anything. According to the "experts" KitKat is good and mostly works well.

If you buy a locked phone, locked meaning tied to one carrier and therefore subsidized and much cheaper, it's likely that you'll get a bunch of carrier-specific apps and wigits that are burned into the firmware and NOT removable. If you can afford it, get an unlocked phone, and a SIM card for your carrier of choice. As always, them that's got, gets.

 

If you use WiFi for internet access, and you use a wireless router, it will likely have a good firewall built in. If you tend to use Starbucks or McDonalds as a WiFi source, then you definitely need a firewall.

 

Google Search Results:

 

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=android+question+answers

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=android+user+question+answers

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=android+antivirus

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=android+firewall

 

Lots of good hits there. You will find many other FAQs about Android that are useful.

Most of the other fora a have good Android sections.

Watch "All About Android" on TWiT.TV here:  http://twit.tv/show/all-about-android

Watch the latest  "Android App Arena" here:    http://twit.tv/show/android-app-arena/19

Many of their other programs, such as "This Week In Google" and "Tech News Today" cover Android, at least in part.

You have a friend in Google.  In me, too!

 

hey Davnel!!!!! :hello:

 

Are you saying buy a copy of the phone then purchase a carrier of my choice  Sim card ????

 

also are you also suggesting I just stay with a simple flip phone for a million reasons to many to print here?

 

ps hope your enjoying that extra hour of sleep if your in US.

 

jimbotoo   :whistle:


Edited by jimbotoo, 02 November 2014 - 03:43 PM.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 09:17 PM

In point of fact, yes. You'll pay list price ($500+) for the phone, but will save upwards of $2000 over the cost of a two year contract. Then you can buy as many SIM cards as you need for where you will be. Very handy for European travel. There are also smartphones that will support TWO SIM cards to allow switching between two different carriers.

 

As for the flip-phone, that's what I use. I have an LG VX-8300 and 5 batteries that I've used since 2006, and bought a spare for $35. I have many computers here and have no use or justification for paying the charges for data and contract costs for a "smart" phone. The internet works just fine on my confusers. I don't need to carry it with me. Phones are for TALKING, something the current crop of precious little snowflakes seem to have either forgotten or never learned. Too bad! Text is so cold.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 09:27 PM

I wouldn't recommend to anyone to pay $500+ for a first smart phone. Very good ones can be had around $200...

 

The Moto G is a great example of a cheap fondlefone that has most of the features of higher priced products.

 

I'm totally with you that phones should be used for talking and the like Davnel, rather than expanding my online time to the point where I don't have to observe the world around me. Maybe we are just outdated in this approach to life.



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 10:04 PM

I agree totally. Unfortunately, if you want an iPhone or Galaxy Sx, ya gotta pay the price. Most of the kiddies pestering their daddies for one want an iPhone. Most of us old farts couldn't care less. Like I said, phones are for talking.

 

As for being outdated, I embrace it. The current crop of crumb grabbers is becoming totally disconnected from both society and reality. Eventually, they'll all be living in small isolated individual cells and communicating entirely by state-controlled data links. No human contact whatever. Bleak future.



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 02:43 PM

I agree totally. Unfortunately, if you want an iPhone or Galaxy Sx, ya gotta pay the price. Most of the kiddies pestering their daddies for one want an iPhone. Most of us old farts couldn't care less. Like I said, phones are for talking.

 

As for being outdated, I embrace it. The current crop of crumb grabbers is becoming totally disconnected from both society and reality. Eventually, they'll all be living in small isolated individual cells and communicating entirely by state-controlled data links. No human contact whatever. Bleak future.

 

I wouldn't recommend to anyone to pay $500+ for a first smart phone. Very good ones can be had around $200...

 

The Moto G is a great example of a cheap fondlefone that has most of the features of higher priced products.

 

I'm totally with you that phones should be used for talking and the like Davnel, rather than expanding my online time to the point where I don't have to observe the world around me. Maybe we are just outdated in this approach to life.

 

Hello Gentlemen :welcome:

It has made my day to have two such wise owls as you both, grace my post, and with so much wisdom as well.

 

I will be off line for a while, so i need the phone for e-mail and work,  i will just buy a used iphone, striped down.

 

Other wise to agree with you all, on many things see here--post 38

 

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/548642/dvd-burner-drives-5-computer-techs-nuts/page-3?p=3525198

 

And thank you both so very much

 

jimbotoo :bubbles:


Edited by jimbotoo, 03 November 2014 - 02:44 PM.





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