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2 Notebooks with same router but very different boadbrand: how to adapt?


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#1 Dirkk

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 03:32 AM

I have 2 different Notebooks in 2 different rooms. Notebook one being in the same room as the router has a much better braodband, about 10 MB/s download: http://i.imgur.com/lW7WAK6.png

The connection to the router is shown as very good for both Notebooks.

Notebook 1 in the same room as the router: http://i.imgur.com/mHKewvR.png

Noteobook 2 in the other room: http://i.imgur.com/kpnqCsl.png or http://i.imgur.com/tx0PQhu.png (instead of 24,0 Mbit/s sometimes or often is displayed 18,0 Mbit/s)

Notebook 2 in the other room about 3 to 4 MB/s download speed the last days: http://i.imgur.com/qRdP43c.png There is nothing downloaded / uploaded with NB 1 (and NB 2) while I check the download speeds.

Network connections NB 1: http://i.imgur.com/3U2RPb3.png

The download speeds of the 2 NBs stay the same when the other one is switched of.

Some days ago the download speed / broadband of NB 2 was as good as the one of NB 2.

 

An hour ago NB 2 had a broadband of about 3 Mbit/s, when I started NB 1, suddenly NB 2 had about 10 Mbit/s also like NB 1. What might have caused that?

 

What could I do to get the same boadband with NB 2 as NB 1 has?


Edited by Dirkk, 16 September 2014 - 03:53 AM.

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#2 Chris Cosgrove

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 06:40 PM

There is a UK property market TV programme called 'Location; location, location' and there should also be one for routers.

 

Given that everything from your ISP to your router is common to both, it is the location of the two notebooks that is causing the difference. The one in the same room as the router has an essentially free air line of sight connection, the other's signal  has to fight its way through the wall and perhaps around furniture. The reason you get changing delivery on this notebook is probably down to the likelihood that you are using it in different positions and attitudes.

 

Attitude is also part of the reason, or at least the positioning of the aerials in relation to the router. Although the designers try for a uniform radiation pattern, this is seldom fully achieved as you will find if you sit in one position with the notebook and then change your position through 90 degrees. Remember the long series of complaints about one of the Apple iPhones, I think it was the i5 ?

 

Technically, there isn't a 'fix' for this problem apart from finding a position to use the second one in that is an acceptable compromise between convenience and signal strength.

 

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 07:30 PM

Many thanks, Chris,

 

So it is easy like that, just the distance from router to NB 2, its position to the router and the things between NB 2 and the router are the cause for the bad download speed. That's it. Actually I could have thought that also, but as the amount of MBit/s of NB 2 was high enough and especially the signal quality of NB 2 was shown as the best one (they same as NB 1) I thought there must be another reason. So that means the displayed signal quality (5 bars) - http://i.imgur.com/mvdkFG5.png - does not mean anything obviously.

 

Alright, so I will just try to find a better position for the router.

 

 

There is a UK property market TV programme called 'Location; location, location' and there should also be one for routers.

I am sorry, I do not quite understand this.

 

Many thanks again.


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Posted 19 September 2014 - 03:26 PM

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They are one and the same.  With a 5/1 mbps connection you want the strongest wifi connection you can get to the wifi router.

"I do not have any idea of all of that, What is a 5/1 mbps connection? I would have thought, when the max. download speed is about 10.000 Mbit/s a transfer rate of 24 Mbit/s or 11 Mbit/s from Notebook to router, respectively vice versa would be enough. But that's not right?"

 

5/1 refers to your broadband best test of 5 down and 1 up [5.5 and .97 to be more accurate]

 

You didn't notice the difference between your broadband tests?  On the wifi that is only 28k you didn't notice you had 2/0.8?  54mbps you had 5/1 

" But that's not right?"  As you can see that is not right.

 

 

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Reason I asked you to put both laptops in the same room is to determine if distance/building materials are what are affecting the slower laptops connection.

"Yes, that's the reason, the point, I now know since Chris told me. But I haven't tried yet, I have to move some heavy furniture (or to get to the plugs behind it) to get a new position for the router."

 

If after you have conducted the test and you find they both are equal in the same room you know there is nothing to fix.  You will just have to find a better position for the router to reach both laptops.  You may want to consider homeplugs to solve the issue with the slower laptop.


Edited by Wand3r3r, 19 September 2014 - 03:27 PM.


#5 Dirkk

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 03:43 PM

Alright, I will test with new router position, that will do it, yes, and thanks for the home plugs idea, many thanks for your help.


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