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To install Windows 8.1 on formatted HD ?


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#1 Jove

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 09:24 AM

I am about to install Windows 8.1 full version on a fromatted HD, . .

 

I have the Product Key that cam with the disk, . .

 

will I need to input the product key from the DELL desktop I am using ?

 

This desk top was given to me by someone who had someone else give it to them

 

and so I will not be able to give MS any details regarding previous owners.

 

Before I do this I would like to know what I am looking forward to.

 

Will very much appreciate your assistance.

 

 

 


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 09:39 AM

If the machine is a Windows 8.1 machine, you won't even be asked for your key.

If it was not originally a Win 8.1 machine, you will be asked for your 25 digit key at the very beginning of the installation.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 10:03 AM

Thank you, . Rocky, .

 

Ok, . .this is a DELL Dimesion 2350 Desk top with 1 Gig RAM, so what I want to do is reformat the, "not working XP"

system, then do a clean install, so all things considering are you saying go ahead and do it, . . if so will I have to change the boot order if I am installing from the disk ?

 

I am reading a lot of reference to DVD installation is that the same as the 8.1 disk I purchased which comes for 32 and 64 bit systems,

one full-version disk for each?


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 10:35 AM

We do have a problem here.

I don't know which processor you have, but I can tell you that 1 gig of ram is not sufficient.

The bare essential is 2 gigs and for proper performance, you'd need 4.

Most old XP machines are not suited for Windows 8 or 8.1.

If you can right click on "My Computer" and go to "Properties", a window will open that will tell us which processor you have, so that I can tell you if it is good enough to run Win 8.1 (assuming that you'd be adding ram).


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 12:16 PM

This computer will accept a maximum of 1GB of RAM.  If you install Windows 8 or 8.1 it will be painfully slow.

 

You can run the Windows Upgrade Advisor to see if this computer is going to be compatible.  It appears that there were several variations of this model which had two Intel CPUs ranging from a 1.7 GHz to 2.5 GHz.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 12:37 PM

This computer will accept a maximum of 1GB of RAM. 

Then there's no way that Win 8.1 will run properly on that machine.

In fact, XP is the only Windows system that will work OK on such a weak machine.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 12:43 PM

Actually... Microsoft lists 1GB of RAM as the minimum, but this is for the 32-bit version only.  But this really doesn't matter as I doubt the computer will ultimately not be compatible.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 01:25 PM

I see, I don't doubt I will have problems,

but this is what MS says about this;

 

 

 

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/upgrade-from-windows-vista-xp-tutorial

1. Before you begin

To upgrade to Windows 8.1 from Windows Vista or Windows XP, you'll need to install it from a Windows 8.1 DVD and perform a clean installation. This means you won't be able to keep any files, settings, or programs when you upgrade.

Windows 8.1 isn't designed for installation on PCs running Windows Vista or Windows XP, so we strongly recommend you do the following before buying the Windows 8.1 DVD.

Review system requirements

We recommend that you download and run the Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant to check if your PC meets the system requirements for Windows 8. If you're running Windows XP, you need to have Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) installed to use Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant. For more info, go to the Service Pack and Update Center.

The Windows 8.1 system requirements are nearly the same as the Windows 8 system requirements—so if your PC can run Windows 8, in most cases, you can get the free update to Windows 8.1. Upgrade Assistant will also check program and device compatibility, and provide a free compatibility report.

Still be sure to review the system requirements for Windows 8.1 before buying the Windows 8.1 DVD. We also recommend that you visit your PC manufacturer's website for info about updated drivers and hardware compatibility.

Here is a summary of the system requirements:

  • Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster

  • RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) (32-bit) or 2 GB (64-bit)

  • Free hard drive space: 16 GB (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)

  • Graphics card: Microsoft DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM driver

of course would you believe the program I am now running will not provide me with the "systems information",

 

If you can, please tell me what alternative can I use to get the details ?

 

So I will know if I have the essential minimums,

 

Its hard for me to know what is painfully slow I recently upgrade my connection from land line to wireless,

I'm now sailing along at 5.5 MBPS, not sure if that will handle this but I could also trim down the services,

 

I really need to install a new OS so that I can use skype, MS deprive me of that, since they now own skype

and my system was XP, . 

 

I strapped and the cost of a new PC is out of my range for the time being, . . sorry :lmao:

 

 

1. Before you begin

To upgrade to Windows 8.1 from Windows Vista or Windows XP, you'll need to install it from a Windows 8.1 DVD and p


Edited by Jove, 03 September 2014 - 02:02 PM.

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 01:37 PM

Please download and install Speccy to provide us with information about your computer.  When  FileHippo opens, click on Download latest version in the upper right pane.
 
When Speccy opens you will see a screen similar to the one below.
 
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Click on File which is outlined in red in the screen above, and then click on Publish Snapshot.
 
The following screen will appear, click on Yes.
 
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The following screen will appear, click on Copy to Clipboard.
 
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In your next post right click inside the Reply to Topic box, then click on Paste.  This will load a link to the Speccy log.
 
This will provide you with all of the pertinent information.

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 02:21 PM

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 02:41 PM

Rocky, Arachibutyrophobia, . .

Well First, I thank you for your time and efforts and assistance if this does not work, . .

I just now recall I have a Toshiba Note Book here that needs a motherboard,

it is a Model Satellite L45-57423, . .  so I think I will be getting a motherboard soon      Thanks again  ! :tophat:

 

Lets see what happens.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 02:42 PM

Good luck Jove.

 

Happy fishing!


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 02:49 PM

So you think with 1.7 GHz I have a chance of some success with this Desk-top, cause

I'm really not qualified to give an opinion ?,,,,,

 

At my best I do graphic and occasional design and research work.

 

I'll be headed for the PC shop soon to order the motherboard repair , that should put me in a better set of circumstances,

Anyway the fishing has always been pretty fair down here.

 

Thank you.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 03:20 PM

Please allow me to explain exactly what you have in your hands.

The PC has a processor that is beyond weak.

We use benchmark scores from Passmark that enables us to judge a computers power and worthiness.

The rock bottom minimum for a Win 8 computer would be one that scores 1,000.

The best processor in the PC you have, scores 216.

The laptop with the damaged motherboard has a processor that scores 712.

That means that the laptop is over 3 times as powerful, but it unfortunately only comes with 1 gig of ram and even if MSC says that 1 gig might do, they are talking about modern high speed ram in a modern high speed motherboard that is using a modern high speed hard drive, of which none of these are to be found in the laptop. That being said, the laptop has the potential to be upgraded to 2 gigs max and given the fact that it is more modern and a lot more powerful than your PC, it would be the better choice.

I am sad to be the bearer of tidings, but even though the Toshiba will be better than the PC, it will still be pitifully slow as compared to any normal expectation.

I do not want to disappoint, nor do I want to burst your balloon.

My only purpose here is to be informative, so think of me as a robot that dispenses info.

I bought a brand new Dell laptop a few days ago, 16 inch, running Windows 8.1 with ample power, 4 gigs of ram and a 500 gig hard drive for $250 plus $17 delivered to my address in Miami.

Total before tax: $249.99 Estimated tax to be collected: $17.50   ----- Grand Total:

$267.49

 

I also bought a new 16 inch Asus laptop from Amazon for $220 that comes with 4 gigs of ram and a 500 gig hard drive and plenty power to run Win 8.1, delivered, some odd 10 days ago.

Total before tax: $219.99 Estimated tax to be collected: $0.00   ----- Grand Total: $219.99

The point I would like to make is that it may not be worth putting any money into the Toshiba laptop for a new motherboard and more ram, possible also a new bigger hard drive, when new laptops can be had at such a low price these days.

Have a wonderful afternoon and I hope it all works well for you.

Please feel free to ask us any questions that come to mind.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 04:56 PM

 

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Ahhhhh, you have taken a load of me, . . I just don't get around with all informations available to me,

with my life style the way it is, . .anyway, I will be looking for your kind of deal here in Jersey, especially,

since the cost of the MB repair has been quoted at 200 bucks, so the W8.1 will be going back to Office Depot

since I will be within the 14 day limit, . . thanks so much for saving me that kind of money, I feel fortunate to have

your advice, considering all things so far and in many ways my afternoon has been wonderful,

I wish you very much the same,

 

Best Regards,

Jove


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