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#1 Norseman143

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 05:19 PM

I recently upgraded my RAM card and now I am interested in upgrading my graphics card a few levels above the one I have

 

I dont want to spend a whole lot of money.

 

I went to the Best buy Web site to see if I could find something a few grades higher then the one I have. I found a lot of different ones that varied in price but the specs didnt seem to match mine

 

I could only upgrade my RAM card to 1 GIG so I would assume that the graphics card would have to be 1 GIG?

 

I have no Idea what to look for. Can someone steer me in the right direction?

 

I Have NVIDA GeForce 4 MX intergradeted GPU

 

Here are some specs, I dont know if this will help?

 

    Slot Number    3
Graphics
        Monitor
            Name    G185H on NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU
            Current Resolution    1366x768 pixels
            Work Resolution    1366x738 pixels
            State    Enabled, Primary, Output devices support
            Monitor Width    1366
            Monitor Height    768
            Monitor BPP    32 bits per pixel
            Monitor Frequency    60 Hz
            Device    \\.\DISPLAY1\Monitor0
        NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU
            Manufacturer    NVIDIA
            Model    GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU
            GPU    Crush17
            Device ID    10DE-01F0
            Revision    A4
            Subvendor    FIC (1509)
            Current Performance Level    Level 0
            Technology    150 nm
            Transistors    29 M
            DirectX Support    7.0
            OpenGL Support    1.2
            Bus Interface    AGP
            AGP Aperture    32 MB
            AGP Rate    4x
            GPU Clock    200 MHz
            Memory Clock    334 MHz
            Driver version    6.14.10.9371
            BIOS Version    4.1f.00.08.09
            ROPs    2
            Shaders    Vertex 0/Pixel 01
            Memory Type    System
            Memory    64 MB
            Pixel Fillrate    0.4 GPixels/s
            Texture Fillrate    0.8 GTexels/s
                Count of performance levels : 1
                    Level 1



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Posted 31 August 2014 - 11:20 AM

Motherboard manufacturer and model?

 

The motherboard determines type of video card that you can install...the onbboard specs you provide only indicate that the onboard is AGP and that doesn't mean that you need an AGP card.  If we know the motherboard specs, we can determine possibilities.

 

<<I could only upgrade my RAM card to 1 GIG so I would assume that the graphics card would have to be 1 GIG?>>

 

Not necessarily.  Onboard graphics are limited by the board since it draws RAM from the system...many graphics cards now have their own RAM installed as part of the card and do not rely on the system RAM.  That's one of the advantages of not using onboard graphics.

 

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 04:04 PM

Thanks for replying Louis

 

I have been reading around this forum and others, and went to the Best Buy web site to try and figure out an inexpensive upgrade.

 

It doesnt have to have really fancy high speed graphics gameing capability. Mostly just surfing the internet chatting on forums and playing a few YouTube Videos

 

I have noticed a lot of News sites are adding a lot bells and whistles to there sites which (upgrading the Ram has really helped)

 

What I have read so far is,like you said, the Motherboard and I read somewhere how many Watts seem to be important, and the only way to find that out is by looking inside the computer

 

What confuses Me is I have found a lot of inexpensive graphic cards but they all either say they are for 2 GIG PCs or they say they are for DDR2 or DDR3

Does the DDR matter like it does for the RAM card? Mine is just DDR

 

If DDR doesnt matter, there are a lot of replacements,If it does,I am screwed,because I couldnt find one that just said DDR

 

Then I read somewhere that if you get to much of something, You can bottleneck the system??

 

So what information do I need to bring to Best Buy for a replacement?

 

 

Here Are some stats for the Motherboard

 

                    Voltage    2.500 V
Motherboard
    Manufacturer    First International Computer, Inc.
    Model    AU31 (Socket A)
    Version    SYS-xxxxxx
    Chipset Vendor    NVIDIA
    Chipset Model    nForce2 IGP
    Chipset Revision    A2
    Southbridge Vendor    NVIDIA
    Southbridge Model    nForce2 MCP
    Southbridge Revision    A4
    System Temperature    47 °C
        BIOS
            Brand    Phoenix Technologies, LTD
            Version    TCB418G
            Date    8/8/2003
        Voltage
            CPU CORE    1.616 V
            MEMORY CONTROLLER    1.616 V
            +3.3V    3.312 V
            +5V    4.919 V
            +12V    11.776 V
            -12V    (3.520) V
            -5V    (16.256) V
            +5V HIGH THRESHOLD    4.838 V
        PCI Data
                Slot PCI
                    Slot Type    PCI
                    Slot Usage    In Use
                    Bus Width    32 bit
                    Slot Designation    PCI0
                    Characteristics    5V, PME
                    Slot Number    0
                Slot PCI
                    Slot Type    PCI
                    Slot Usage    Available
                    Bus Width    32 bit
                    Slot Designation    PCI1
                    Characteristics    5V, PME
                    Slot Number    1
                Slot PCI
                    Slot Type    PCI
                    Slot Usage    In Use
                    Bus Width    32 bit
                    Slot Designation    PCI2
                    Characteristics    5V, PME
                    Slot Number    2
                Slot AGP
                    Slot Type    AGP
                    Slot Usage    Available
                    Bus Width    32 bit
                    Slot Designation    AGP
                    Characteristics    5V
                    Slot Number    3



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Posted 31 August 2014 - 05:28 PM

You'd need an AGP video card as your motherboard has an AGP slot.  These are now obsolete (replaced by PCI Express some years ago) and so very few new AGP cards will be for sale in retailers at this point. Those that are, are older designs.

 

A graphics card has it's own memory.  This doesn't have to be of the same type as installed on the system.  So a card with DDR2 or DDR3 is fine.  The important thing though is that it uses the AGP interface.

 

This is the type of thing that should fit - http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-S-Video-Graphics-512-A8-N403-LR/dp/B001QMM6NU/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1409521643&sr=1-1&keywords=agp+video+card

 

I can't find power supply recommendations for this card, but it's not likely to draw much power.  Some old reviews show overall system power draw (taken at the wall) of around 200 watts maximum with this card, so I guess a 250w PSU or greater should be good.


Edited by jonuk76, 31 August 2014 - 05:29 PM.

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 08:47 PM

Thanks JonUK

 

Thats exactly what I needed to know

 

So when it says the DDR its talking about whats on the card

 

So a GPI slot

 

I will see if Best Buy carries anything like it. If not, I will order the one you linked

 

                                                             Thanks Again



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Posted 31 August 2014 - 08:52 PM

Doesn't make a lot of sense to put any $$ into a socket A pc these days.

Save your $$ for a new pc in the future?


Edited by Joe C, 31 August 2014 - 08:53 PM.


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Posted 02 September 2014 - 01:04 PM

Before buying anything...what's the point of this upgrade?  What are you looking to improve...and why?

 

If the intent is for better gameplay....what games are you targeting?

 

In general...replacing old parts...with parts that are slightly less old...makes sense only if you are satisfied with the performance of said system as it was, IMO.

 

In any case...do the smart thing, whether that is stand pat or move forward.

 

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