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Is this course worth taking?


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#1 grits207

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 02:19 PM

I have the opportunity to take a course called "Infomation Systems Specialist+" at a local community college starting next month and I am having a really tough time deciding whether or not I should take it. It is a one and a half year course (only 4 hours a day) and costs approximately $20k. Below is a list of all the different modules in the course

 

 

Student Success Strategies

Software Lab

Network+

A+

Security+

Windows 7 Configuration: 70-680

Windows Server 2008 Active Directory Configuration: 70-640

Windows Server 2008 Network Infrastructure Configuration: 70-642

Windows Server 2008 Application Platform Configuration: 70-643

Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Administrator: 70-647

Introduction to CISCO Routers

Exchange Server 2010 Configuration: 70-662

SQL Server 2008, Implementation and Maintenance: 70-432

SharePoint 2010 Configuration: 70-667

UNIX/Linux

Career Planning and Preparation

8 Week Field Placement

 

 

The school claims to have a 100% employment rate for people who successfully complete the course, but my biggest concern is whether or not I'll actually be able to pass the course since I am a complete newbie to any IT stuff.

 

So, my questions to you all are

 

1) How difficult would all the stuff I listed be to learn for somebody has zero prior experience? Obviously I wouldn't expect any course worth anything to be EASY but I would at least like to go into it with confidence that as long as I put in the effort and study time I should be able to pass and not end up putting myself in debt for nothing.

 

2) The school is also offering a lesser course (called Information Systems Administrator)  that costs $6k less, only takes a year but doesn't include Security+, Introduction to CISCO Routers, SQL Server 2008 and UNIX/Linux. Might this be a better option for me?

 

Any help with these questions or advice would be greatly appreciated.



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#2 kaz20

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 02:47 PM

Will you also be attempting to aquire the certifications after you complete this long course. I personally think u shouldnt if you are not going to the cert tests after.


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Posted 26 August 2014 - 03:06 PM

If you don't have much experience with IT work, I would suggest going for the Information Systems Administrator. 



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Posted 26 August 2014 - 03:31 PM

Will you also be attempting to aquire the certifications after you complete this long course. I personally think u shouldnt if you are not going to the cert tests after.

 

The recruitment person for the school implied to me that the exams were actually included in the price of the course but it's very possible she either didn't know what she was talking about or was just BSing me. If they aren't included in the course then I would want to do the exams eventually but I would probably need to have a job first before I'd be able to afford them. Kind of a catch-22.



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 05:40 AM

Do you have the $20K?  How long will it take you to pay off the $20K working a $10 an hour or $20k a year job?  At best you'll be making $31k a year, but I'd bet closer to the 20K.

 

Having certifications for all that isn't going to help you if you don't have an Associates degree at a minimum.  The jobs that don't require a degree and have those requirements mostly want a degree or equivalent experience.  Positions that you will get will be entry level.  To get those same entry level positions, with a lot less money spent, get your A+ and Network+.  After you are working you can work on your Security+.

 

The rest of it will probably be expired by the time you can actually use it.  Here is the Microsoft Product Life Cycle.  Server 2000 was discontinued after 10 years.  Following this logic Server 2008 will be retired in 2018.  You will be certified on server 2008 on or about 2016, giving you two years with it.

 

That all said, if you have the money and the time this will give you a great foundation to work with.  But you will not complete this course and end up in a 50k a year or better job.  Those jobs want a degree and/or experience.  The certifications are only a foundation and you have a lot more to learn once you get in the field.



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Posted 28 August 2014 - 02:48 PM

By any chance is this program at Miller-Motte College? Just seems familiar to some that I have seen offered there. Like Kilroy mentioned, having all this but no actual college degree isn't going to do as much. Also, as you said you are new to the IT scene, are you sure this is the route you wish to take? It is a lot to learn if you ever want to get a career that actually uses any of those certifications.


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Posted 31 August 2014 - 10:19 PM

Some of the courses are a bit outdated. I would rather see Windows Server 2012 and Windows 8.



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Posted 31 August 2014 - 11:53 PM

Hello there buddy! If you are looking for IT courses, I suggest that you take it in vTrain! They have wide range of IT Courses there such as Cisco, Citrix, Microsoft, Veeam, and many more! If you have more information, you can just contact me so that we could work this thing out. I'm hoping to hear from you soon, mate! Cheers!



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Posted 02 September 2014 - 02:02 PM

Do you have the $20K?  How long will it take you to pay off the $20K working a $10 an hour or $20k a year job?  At best you'll be making $31k a year, but I'd bet closer to the 20K.

 

Having certifications for all that isn't going to help you if you don't have an Associates degree at a minimum.  The jobs that don't require a degree and have those requirements mostly want a degree or equivalent experience.  Positions that you will get will be entry level.  To get those same entry level positions, with a lot less money spent, get your A+ and Network+.  After you are working you can work on your Security+.

 

The rest of it will probably be expired by the time you can actually use it.  Here is the Microsoft Product Life Cycle.  Server 2000 was discontinued after 10 years.  Following this logic Server 2008 will be retired in 2018.  You will be certified on server 2008 on or about 2016, giving you two years with it.

 

That all said, if you have the money and the time this will give you a great foundation to work with.  But you will not complete this course and end up in a 50k a year or better job.  Those jobs want a degree and/or experience.  The certifications are only a foundation and you have a lot more to learn once you get in the field.

 

I don't have the 20k, I would be taking out a student loan to pay for it. I realize I would have to start out with a low level job and have to try and work my way up from there, but I figure that would be better than unemployment.

 

By any chance is this program at Miller-Motte College? Just seems familiar to some that I have seen offered there. Like Kilroy mentioned, having all this but no actual college degree isn't going to do as much. Also, as you said you are new to the IT scene, are you sure this is the route you wish to take? It is a lot to learn if you ever want to get a career that actually uses any of those certifications.

 

The school is called Eastern College. I'm honestly not sure at all that it's the route I want to take but I've got very limited options right now being without a steady source of income and living in a area where there aren't many other colleges to attend or courses to take. IT simply seemed like the safest route for actually being able to find a job afterwords (even if it's not a high paying job).

 

 

Hello there buddy! If you are looking for IT courses, I suggest that you take it in vTrain! They have wide range of IT Courses there such as Cisco, Citrix, Microsoft, Veeam, and many more! If you have more information, you can just contact me so that we could work this thing out. I'm hoping to hear from you soon, mate! Cheers!

 

I will look into that but it would be difficult for me to do since I wouldn't be able to get a student loan for anything online or outside of Canada and I don't have a job at the moment to be able pay for it without a loan.



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Posted 02 September 2014 - 03:41 PM

I don't have the 20k, I would be taking out a student loan to pay for it.

Provided that you understand that you're going to be starting at the entry level, I'd recommend going with the cheaper course.  It will give you the skills needed to acquire and entry level position and give you a good foundation to build on.  Plus your loan amount will be smaller.






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