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New Machine Dilemma....


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#1 ajw_1974

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 03:29 AM

Hi all, Newbie to the forum here!

 

I am in the market for a new machine. I don’t need anything too spectacular. Anything will be better than the 1.8 ghz single core amd athlon xp I am using currently!

 

I may play the occasional game (strategy types mainly) and rip the odd dvd to watch elsewhere. There may be a bit of light video editing (again, home movies). Surfing the net and also writing a letter or two.  

 

Can anyone give me their thoughts on these two machines?

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00CP2FLFU/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3RRFZO45GDNQX&coliid=I1GNZI2CE2QZWD&psc=1

 

or

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B006ZINMP6/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3RRFZO45GDNQX&coliid=ISSNVUMMZ768T&psc=1

 

Both will coupled with this graphics card:

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00AJ9XF3Q/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3RRFZO45GDNQX&coliid=I1NFDTUD9QSWF7

 

I am leaning toward the AMD based one, mainly because on paper it looks the better spec. I have read though that that type of processor is unique and unupgradeable. That said, I have never upgraded a processer/ mobo in 20 odd years of messing with a computer (plenty of hard drives, graphics, sound TV and USB cards though!) so I don’t know if that’s a concern.

 

Can anyone draw a comparison for me?


Edited by ajw_1974, 21 July 2014 - 03:30 AM.


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 04:03 AM

the a-10 is more of the general purpose flavor. it is an apu, which means if your 650 tanks, you have decent back up to use for display.  this chip may enable you to bypass the 650 altogether. the 12gb ram is more than enough, and you get the  2tb hdd for massive storage capacity. it looks like it comes with the OS license, and also a wimpy power supply that might not pass muster if the 650 is added.

 

the i5 is more of a workhorse cpu. if your 650 gets crippled somehow then you will be getting by on the intel hd integrated video, which isn't so grand compared to the a-10. the 8gb RAM is sufficient and the hdd is 1tb. the OS is installed also..

 

considering your usage parameters. the a-10 may be in order but be wary of the power supply..

 

considering that if you want that sweet spot where you won't find your machine leaving anything to be desired, i saw this one:

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/VIBOX-Super-Sonic-Performance-Multimedia/dp/B009GJXY9K/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1405933934&sr=1-2&keywords=3570k+%2Bgtx+760


Edited by synergy513, 21 July 2014 - 04:35 AM.

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#3 ajw_1974

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 08:02 AM

Thanks, I was aware that the power supply could be an issue but was hoping to use the one out of my old machine (its about a year old and is 600w). The recommendation is a little out of my price range (I have young children which is also the reason my gaming days are over also!). I could probably go to £500 for the machine but thats about it. Are the integrated graphics ok these days? They were a definate 'avoid' when I last upgraded which was 10 years ago to be fair!!



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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:08 AM

G'day mate, integrated graphics is certainly ok for the application at hand and they have improved a lot over the years, especially AMD's solution although the Intel is more then decent enough in day to day operations. Have a look at the HP 110 desktop which has a core i5, 4GB of ram and 1TB hard drive and pretty good value.


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 07:55 PM

perhaps an i3 is a budget performer. it is a hyperthreaded dual core and could couple up with the 650 quite well. the latest and greatest is the gtx 750 or 750ti though. those jewels are getting rave reviews for delivering such a wallop without requiring much power or expense.. i saw this package deal for under 500....

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sedatech-Advanced-Desktop-i3-4130-Processor/dp/B00IED67EI/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1405990408&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+750%2Bi3

 

the amd apu (a-10) series integrated graphics is much better than the intel hd 2500 or 4000. the intel hd 4600 is catching up though but the chips that feature the 4600 are a little too much on the budget, whereas the a-10 is selling wildly due to price/performance ratio fitting into the sweet spot..


Edited by synergy513, 21 July 2014 - 08:08 PM.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 05:52 AM

Mmmm, thanks guys for the replies. It all has certainly changed since my last upgrade.

 

I have substituted the original graphics card for 750ti but my next question is really, do I need a graphics card at all with these modern APU's. Is the 750ti a decent enough upgrade over what comes with the zoostorm machine?



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:53 AM

Mmmm, thanks guys for the replies. It all has certainly changed since my last upgrade.

 

I have substituted the original graphics card for 750ti but my next question is really, do I need a graphics card at all with these modern APU's. Is the 750ti a decent enough upgrade over what comes with the zoostorm machine?

 

You could always add the graphics card at a later time if you are not pleased with performance.



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 08:46 AM

the a-10 sports the 7660d integrated and it performs on par with the gt 640 or hd 6670. it is adequate for the modest PC usage. the 750ti is up there with the gtx 570 or the hd 7850 and is a few steps above the gtx 650 you were planning on initially without substantial added cost. it won't be a disappointment at all and it runs on around 60 watts.  it is one of those phenomenal breakthroughs that happens once every so often.

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=164&sort=a7


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