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Motherboard and or CPU upgrade for Dell XPS 9000


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#1 proidgy68

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 10:52 AM

New to this board and first post.

 

I have a Dell XPS 9000 that I bought in 2011, it has an intel i7-920 and a 3 GB/s SATA interface native to the motherboard. I have already upgraded to windows 8.1, added 24 GB of RAM, added a 1 TB SSD, and upgraded the NVIdia GPU, so I know my way around the box. What I am seeking though is given my current mother board limitations, how far up can I upgrade my CPU (looking for the top 2-3 intel CPU's that will fit my socket) and if that is not enough, I am up for a motherboard / CPU upgrade then I could take advantage of 6 GB/s for my SSD. but would that also require a power source upgrade too?  

 

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:39 PM

Generally, when upgrading PSU, the largest thing to worry about are your graphic cards (as they take the most energy).


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 09:31 PM

proidgy68, Welcome to BC Forums! 

 

To gain the most possible speeds, you'll likely need a SATA 6GB/s MB (commonly known as SATA 3). These will also have USB 3.0 included. And of course a CPU designed for that new MB. 

 

If you're looking for the latest, it may pay off to wait for a few more months to a year, when the Haswell-E CPU's are released, these will have DDR4 RAM compatibility out of the box. Things are in the works right now, though no exact release date has been set. Of course, that will mean you'd have to do something with the RAM you already have invested in, or the whole computer. 

 

Currently the i7-4770K is one of the most in demand CPU's, the bigger brother to the i7-4770 that I'm running now. Thing is, the "K" series are for overclockers & enthusiasts, it's actually missing a feature or two from the consumer version (the one I have). Note that it doesn't include triple channel RAM support. 

 

http://ark.intel.com/products/75123/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz

 

Just researched & am surprised that an OEM would include a 2+ year old CPU in a new PC, Dell must have had a boatload of these CPU's to unload. Though it was still a top CPU for it's day & would have some value now, to the right buyer. Triple & quad channel supported Intel CPU's are costly today. 

 

http://ark.intel.com/products/37147/Intel-Core-i7-920-Processor-8M-Cache-2_66-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI

 

One factor that's in your favor, most of today's Intel's offerings aren't as power hungry as those of 5-6 years back. Note the difference in the i7 920 & the i7-4770K power usage. (130W vs 84W). 

 

Here's a more recent offering from this year, faster than either the i7-4770/K (3.40GHz) for a few more bucks & 4GHz out of the box.  :guitar:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117369

 

Further specs. 

 

http://ark.intel.com/products/80807/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_40-GHz

 

Or you can wait it out a few more months & either get next generation components, or get these at a reduced cost. Because customers always tends to flock to the latest & greatest, suppliers will be flooded with these components & won't be able to move at current pricing. 

 

Good Luck with your new build, whatever you decide to do.  :thumbup2:

 

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:29 AM

I too have an older i7 920 cpu and my board also is limited to 3gb/s sata, but when I got a new ssd drive I also got one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124045

 

and now my ssd can run at 6 gb/s sata. It's a very cheap upgrade for your ssd until you want to do a better upgrade next year when the haswell E chips and DDR4 memory are available

 

Edit:

you'll need to plug this into a 2.0 x16 pcie slot to work properly, the x1 slot doesn't work well with this


Edited by Joe C, 20 July 2014 - 07:40 AM.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 10:38 PM

 

I too have an older i7 920 cpu and my board also is limited to 3gb/s sata, but when I got a new ssd drive I also got one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124045

 

Would be great if there was a similar inexpensive way to upgrade SATA 2 notebook MB's, though all of my SSD's are SATA 3, can't take advantage of the full potential offered. But still get a 7.7 WEI score (for SSD) on a 128GB Crucial M4, on the Windows 7 Pro install of my Toshiba notebook built in 2010 (Satellite A665-S6086). Also have a 2011 MSI notebook (FX603-064US) that performs similar, though CPU/RAM scores are higher to reflect the installed i5 (same frequencies as the OP's). 2.66 with 2.93 Turbo Boost. 

 

Though the OP's CPU is dated, there are many who would covet the opportunity to grab the computer as a whole (being the 1st owner gives a huge boost), would make an excellent home server/spare computer, possible Media Center PC, gamer PC (with the SATA 3 controller above) or a 24/7 dedicated number cruncher for a project such as folding@home. 

 

This PC still has unleashed potential & years of life left in it. 

 

Here is a brand new upgrade CPU from what you have, but cost is a factor here. That would purchase many later models, but on the other hand, shows it's still in demand. 

 

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-950-Socket-LGA1366-Processor/dp/B002A6G3V2

 

Further specs per Intel. 

 

http://ark.intel.com/products/37150/Intel-Core-i7-950-Processor-8M-Cache-3_06-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI

 

I looked all over the place for a new MB (with latest as possible features) to replace what you have, but keep ending up with "out of stock". Even if these were available, would be expensive. I'm sure that eBay are flooded with these, but I wouldn't obtain such critical components there. Maybe a used upgrade CPU for many computers for under $50, many far less than that, but a MB, no. I wouldn't do it, nor would recommend to anyone else. I can swap a CPU normally under 15 minutes, but the MB takes time. Too much to be messing with used/so called refurb ones. 

 

Personally, I feel this kind of cash would be better put to use on a new system. The Intel CPU's of today uses less power, faster than ever & support is plentiful. I have poured cash into older systems not only for myself, but also others, finding one speedier component leads to another & so on. By the time the smoke clears, $200-300 is spent for what may be an overall 10-15% increase of speed & power. I won't fall into that again. However, if someone else wants to spend their cash & pay me to do the work, I'll happily do the best that I can. 

 

For the time being, the card that Joe C has linked looks promising. 

 

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:21 PM

yup...nothing you can do for laptops.

If your a mobile kind of person then a laptop is great. But if your at home a lot, then thats one of the disadvantages over a desktop


Edited by Joe C, 20 July 2014 - 11:32 PM.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:31 PM

will an i7-980 6 core go in the 1366 socket successfully? i think that may be as high as you can go and not be in a diminishing result vacuum. i think the i7-990x goes in that vacuum category.

 

http://ark.intel.com/products/58664/Intel-Core-i7-980-Processor-12M-Cache-3_33-GHz-4_8-GTs-Intel-QPI


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:35 PM

Might be possible but here's a list of compatable cpu's from the Dell forums...

 

Intel® Core™ i7-900 Desktop Processor Series
    * Intel® Core™ i7-920 Processor (8M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI)
    * Intel® Core™ i7-930 Processor (8M Cache, 2.80 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI)
    * Intel® Core™ i7-940 Processor (8M Cache, 2.93 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI)
    * Intel® Core™ i7-950 Processor (8M Cache, 3.06 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI)
    * Intel® Core™ i7-960 Processor (8M Cache, 3.20 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI)
    * Intel® Core™ i7-970 Processor (12M Cache, 3.20 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI)

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/p/19383856/19896370.aspx


Edited by Joe C, 20 July 2014 - 11:37 PM.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:44 PM

i think the 970 might have the 6 cores. it has the 12mb cache


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:50 PM

i think the 970 might have the 6 cores. it has the 12mb cache

 

Yes, a 6 core CPU it is. 

 

http://ark.intel.com/products/47933/Intel-Core-i7-970-Processor-12M-Cache-3_20-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI

 

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