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#1 OldPhil

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 08:32 AM

This morning I had a new interesting pop up when I closed Firefox, it told me of needed up dates!  Mozilla does not send out pop ups, keep you wits about you be very careful of what you click on!!!!!!


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 09:52 AM

Nope, I have to disagree with you!  Per Mozilla ( https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/advanced-settings-browsing-network-updates-encryption?redirectlocale=en-US&as=u&redirectslug=Options+window+-+Advanced+panel&utm_source=inproduct#w_update-tab ):

Firefox updates

* Automatically install updates (recommended: improved security): Firefox automatically downloads and installs found updates.
** Warn me if this will disable any of my add-ons: If you wish to be prompted if the downloads will disable any installed add-ons, select that setting.
 
* Check for updates, but let me choose whether to install them: Firefox lets you choose if you want to download and install updates. If you do not choose to do so, you can download them at a later time.

* Never check for updates (not recommended: security risk): Firefox will not check for updates.

Scotty comment:  The only way they can notify you, is to display a message on the screen.

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Edited by scotty_ncc1701, 17 July 2014 - 09:53 AM.


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 10:31 AM

Did you fully read and understand the post?  I have been using Firefox since beta, I very aware of it how it works.  Many are not near as well informed my post was to warn the neophytes, many of which cannot resist the need to click!!!!


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 12:06 PM

Mozilla does not send out pop ups...

 

OldPhil:

With all due respect, I disagree with you.  By definition a popup is: "appearing suddenly and temporarily in a new window within or on top of an open window".  Reference: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/popup?s=t (near bottom).

Although I don't use FF automatic updates, I reinstalled FF 29.0.1 on my test computer and set it up to notify when updates are available, but let me decide.  Here is what happened:

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 05:30 PM

I be darned if I can figure out how this can be construed as anything but a warning to others! 

 

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This morning I had a new interesting pop up when I closed Firefox, it told me of needed up dates!  Mozilla does not send out pop ups, keep you wits about you be very careful of what you click on!!!!!!


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 05:08 PM

OldPhil:

No disrespect intended, but the point is, that you indicated specifically, "Mozilla does not send out pop ups...", but Mozilla can show popups as shown in the example, and it is indicating an update, in a valid, baseline install.  There are no viruses, malware, etc.

Thus the comment of "Mozilla does not send out pop ups..." is misleading.  Being careful on any messages displayed is prudent, that is true.  However Mozilla Firefox (and Thunderbird) [note 1] will display popups, depending on how it is configured, that is my point.  The popup I showed is from the basic, no changes made, install.

Also understanding how the update checks work is important, in my example:

1.  Firefox (and other Mozilla programs) connects to a program on the Mozilla site that checks for, and returns the status of any updates available.

2.  Firefox (and other Mozilla programs) displays a notice that an update is available, based on the information received from Mozilla.

3.  A popup can be from any program, script, etc.  Because a Mozilla program initiated the check, the Mozilla site returned information about updates, and a Mozilla program displayed the popup -- Mozilla displayed the popup.

NOTES:
1.  These are the only Mozilla things I use.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:10 PM

I probably should have been a little more specific about the applet, I was shutting down had just killed the browser.  Sitting behind was this drab applet stating new important Firefox updates available, the applets litany sounded quite convincing and would be very convincing to a neophyte, that was the purpose of the post to get them to look a bit harder.  If they would only take that extra second or two the "Am I Infected" section would have a ton less posts!  


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