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Purchase Template: Need help in selecting a gaming computer


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#1 Hellswake92

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 03:57 AM

My budget for the new computer is:
Below $1000 ideally the less expensive the better, but i still want good quality, but i guess that's what everyone wants.
What are the primary uses for this computer (IE: mail, web browsing, programming, games, etc)?
I plan to use it primarily for games that i'd get from steam etc.  Probably would browse the web as well.
What software do you intend on using on the computer?
I prefer windows 7 but i have gotten use to windows 8, as for browsers i typically use firefox.
Do you play games? If so, what type of games?
Well i was a fps shooter player on consoles, but i'm looking to starting computer gaming.  I've played some of the Total war games, mount & Blade, path of exile, and league of legends.  I just recently got a game called Nether off of steam to find it doesn't work very well at all on my computer now.  So typically i've played strategy types of games, but i've been seeing some of the games like nether, day z, the forest a lot of survival or horror games and i find my self wanting to try them.
Do you tend to have a lot of programs running at the same time, or do you close every program when you are done using it?
i usually close programs when done.
Do you store a lot of pictures or music on the computer?

No music, and right now probably less than 10 pictures so not a lot.

 

I've been looking at amazon and found some possibilities but i'm not sure what's best or if there are better computers out there for the price.  If someone could order these computers on which are best that would be nice.

 

http://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-Gamer-Ultra-GUA390-Desktop/dp/B009O7LZXQ/ref=psdc2_t3_B009O7LZYK_B009O7LZXQ#productDetails

 

http://www.amazon.com/CybertronPC-Assassin-GM4242B-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B009SJR7M8/ref=sr_sp-btf_title_6_142?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1404618300&sr=1-142&keywords=desktop+computers#productDetails

 

http://www.amazon.com/Velocity-Micro-Vector-M20-2-Desktop/dp/B00J8D0O4C/ref=sr_sp-btf_title_11_261?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1404618455&sr=1-261&keywords=desktop+computers#productDetails

 

http://www.amazon.com/CybertronPC-5150-Unleashed-GM1224F-Desktop/dp/B00JB2LXYU/ref=sr_ob_31?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1404617973&sr=1-31#productDetails

 

http://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-Gamer-Ultra-GUA380-Desktop/dp/B009O7LZYK/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_3_78?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1404618187&sr=1-78&keywords=desktop+computers#productDetails

 

http://www.amazon.com/CybertronPC-Borg-Q-GM4213A-Desktop-Blue/dp/B00GFG1B1A/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_2_28?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1404617973&sr=1-28&keywords=desktop+computers#productDetails

 

http://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-Gamer-Ultra-GUA880-Desktop/dp/B0089KDCIU/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1404617270&sr=1-1&keywords=desktop+computers



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 03:37 AM

Hi, welcome to the forum, based from the list of systems you have provided, the best PC on that list is the CybertronPC 5150 because it has the fastest the processor out of the lot as the 6 cores is pretty decent but the graphics card is the main reason for the choice.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 07:30 AM

Ah that's the one i was having the most issues finding out how good the video card (AMD Radeon R7-260X) i was looking at all the video cards on notebook check. So that one has the best video card? From what i have researched a lot of people argue that the video card is the most important part, and then the processor.  From what i understand 3.5 GHz FX-Series Six-Core FX-6300 is supposed to be better than something like 4.2 GHz FX-Series Quad-Core FX-4170, why does the quad core have a higher GHz? I'm assuming these would be better for different things?  In the small amount of computer gaming i've done i've always had to play everything on bare minimum graphics like when i used to play guild wars 2 more.  How well will this one do in comparison?  Does this seem like a good system for the price i mean i don't know entirely what to look for but of everything on amazon below 1000 these seemed the best?

 

I apologize for the rapid fire questions, i just have very little knowledge on the subject and i like to know as much as possible before i make a purchase, and the research i've done on it can only go so far.  I appreciate the input thank you.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 10:54 AM

so i found some new computers that i'd appreciate if someone could look at they seem a lot better and cheaper? 

 

http://www.walmart.com/ip/iBUYPOWER-Gamer-WA583R7-Black-Desktop-PC-with-AMD-Eight-Core-FX-8320-Vishera-Processor-8GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-7-Home-Premium-Monitor/35119954

 

http://www.walmart.com/ip/CybertronPC-Hellion-TGM1213A-Desktop-PC-with-AMD-FX-6300-Hexa-Core-Processor-16GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-7-Home-Premium-Monitor-Not-Incl/35671851

 

http://www.walmart.com/ip/CyberPowerPC-Black-Gamer-Ultra-GUA2600W-Desktop-PC-with-AMD-Vishera-FX-8320-Octa-Core-Processor-16GB-Memory-2TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-8.1-Monitor/37550562

 

Any input on these?



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 11:34 AM

I'm not exactly sure why CPU manufactures uses a high frequency on the lower end CPU but one educated guess would be to compensate the lack of extra cores that the higher end counterpart has and possibly having the headroom to increase the frequency higher. For certain applications, the higher the frequency does benefit although sometimes the more cores that is available, the better it will benefit from it. We cannot exactly do any comparisons due to the lack of information of your current system but i am going to make a large assumption that there should be a substantial increase in performance. 

 

Your digging around for more systems from other retailers has paid off as the iBuypower Gamer WA583R7 is about the same specifications as Cybertron 5150 system although the major difference is the 8 core CPU and it is cheaper in price too.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 01:02 PM

well looks like i'll go with the iBuypower Gamer WA583R7 then :) Now the task of trying to learn about computer monitors.. and whats best for gaming/ this computer.

 

Thank you for all the help so far any tips on monitors?



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 02:56 PM

I'm usually not a big fan of big screens so this is the one i'm most looking at right now.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/ViewSonic-VX2252MH/31390871

 

antiglare,2ms response, DVI and HDMI ports, 1080p, and speakers

 

would this work well with the desktop/ overall thoughts on these 2 items together for a gaming computer?



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:05 PM

The Viewsonic monitor should be perfectly fine for gaming uses and it is compatible with the iBuypower system plus the speaker built-in is a little nice touch to it. 


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 11:41 PM

Well i believe that's it. Thank you for all your help : )



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 01:36 AM

No worries mate, hopefully it turns out well :)


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 01:39 AM

hey i'm back once again lol, so i didn't realize that the computer didn't have built in wireless and i'm kind of lost on what to get for it i've read that USB is convenient but not as strong as a PCI.  I also read about access ports, needless to say i'm confused and don't know what i'm looking for how do i decide which i need?  Does the internet speeds i use affect what i should get? I usually prefer ethernet but the convenience of wireless is nice.  I don't have the fastest internet speed some numbers i remember are at school and most places i've seen the internet goes at 1Mbps i think which is considerably faster than what is at my house which loads stuff at a pathetic pace of 20-40kbps, even though we are paying for highspeed internet etc. but anyways i was wondering how to go about buying one of these?



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Posted 27 July 2014 - 02:37 AM

If your home connection is around 1Mbps then a high end PCI wireless card is not needed as the connection will not be utilising the full capacity of card. The Asus USB-N53 should be more then enough for your connection while being reliable and it works really well. 


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 04:35 AM

what makes it better then something like this

 

http://www.amazon.com/EW-7622UMn-300Mbps-Wireless-Adapter-Extended/dp/B0067I4Z4Q/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406453527&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Edimax+EW-7622UMn+300Mbps+2T2R+802.11n+Wireless+USB+Adapter

 

What makes one of these things good?



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Posted 27 July 2014 - 05:00 AM

here are a group of these things that sounded ok, any input? your listed one first

 

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Wireless-N-Graphical-Interface-USB-N53/dp/B005SAKW9G/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406453281&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Asus+USB-N53+-+300Mbps+Dual+Band+Wireless+USB+Dongle.+802.11n%2C+%28Win7%29%2C+3+Year+Warranty

 

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Archer-T4U-Wireless-One-Button/dp/B00JBJ6VG8/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1406453817&sr=1-3&dpPl=1

 

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WDN4200-Wireless-Adapter-One-Button/dp/B00HC01KMS/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1406454447&sr=1-5

 

http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-Wireless-Network-Adapter-DWA-180/dp/B00CL58IJC/ref=sr_sp-btf_title_1_7?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1406453817&sr=1-7

 

http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-RangeMax-Wireless-N-Adapter-WNDA3100/dp/B00I499UVE/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1406453817&sr=1-6

 

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Linksys-Dual-Band-Wireless-N600-USB-Adapter/22027096



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Posted 27 July 2014 - 06:23 AM

The first linked one (Edimax) does not have dual band and same goes for the Netgear Rangemax. The Linksys at Walmart is essentially the same as the Asus N53. The two TP-Link and D-Link are both AC wireless adapters, so they're are higher end then the Asus but to utilise the AC speeds, your router also has to be AC. If it isn't then the Asus or Linksys should be more then sufficient. The TP-Link WDN4000 is $4 more then the Linksys at Walmart and $8 more then the Asus, so realistically, the TP-Link is a pretty compelling deal.  


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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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