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Why is swapfile active athough disabled?


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#1 Dirkk

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Posted 28 June 2014 - 06:12 PM

Why is pagefile.sys / the swapfile active / enabled (writing) - http://i.imgur.com/XZRL8DH.png - though I have enabled - http://i.imgur.com/F6owIyP.png - "No swapfile"  in "Virtual memory"?


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Posted 28 June 2014 - 11:46 PM

What does Task Manager say the size of the swapfile is ?



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 03:17 AM

Where can I find it there?

 

http://i.imgur.com/PYdIfwd.png


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 05:18 AM

Did you save the setting for "no swapfile" when you made the change? Look in the root of c: drive - is there a file named pagefile.sys? Does it have today's date?

 

One thing you need to be aware of - you cannot stop Windows from paging. Windows was designed to page - if you disable the pagefile / swapfile, you are only disabling your ability to manage it. Windows will continue to page, you just won't know it (and it will NOT create a file named "pagefile.sys"). I'm not sure why anyone would disable the pagefile anyway.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 05:35 AM

Yes, I saved and restart the Notebook. You mean that file: http://i.imgur.com/PYdIfwd.png? It has the date, time of yesterday, when I made the changes and restarted.

 

 

One thing you need to be aware of - you cannot stop Windows from paging. Windows was designed to page - if you disable the pagefile / swapfile, you are only disabling your ability to manage it.

Oops, I - who has any idea of anything - would not had that idea, I had thought, paging will be stopped then (because it says "no swapfile" so I had thought, that file will disappear.

 

 

I'm not sure why anyone would disable the pagefile anyway.

Well, my Notebook is extremely slow and here - http://i.imgur.com/LiLUdgb.png - is shown a lot of writing / reading and as I know (mean to know) the swaping is much slower than the RAM is, so I had hoped to speed up the Notebook.

 

And Win has displayed a message to close a program (Firefox) because there is not enough RAM (during restarting), so I assumed there is no paging anymore. But at the moment there seems to be enough RAM - http://i.imgur.com/BnIgmHi.png.CleanMem appears to work properly.

 

Before I can access an open program (after the program left unsued a longer time) it lasts quite a long time. So I assumed there might be a connection to the writing to / reading from the device / to the swap file.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 10:03 AM

Disabling the page/swap file is recommended for users with SSD drives to cut down on unnecessary read/writes.  Mine has been disabled well over a year now, don't miss it one bit!


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:47 AM

Dirkk, I suggest you re-enable the swap file and then let's address any other issues you might be having.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:22 PM

Alright, thank you, OldPhil.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:26 PM

OK, many thanks Allan...well, actually this - http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/537711/how-much-ram-necessary-to-run-win-properly/ - was the starting situation.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 01:03 PM

I took a quick look at the other thread. The less ram you have free, the more efficiently the system is running. If you have some sort of problem somewhere (something performing erratically or not as expected, etc), please post it.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 01:15 PM

Thank you, Allan.

 

 

If you have some sort of problem somewhere (something performing erratically or not as expected, etc), please post it.

Yes, it is the extrem slowness talked about in that thread. At the moment I have some MB of free RAM (so it seems there would be enough RAM) - http://i.imgur.com/2oVFQKV.png - but the system is slow though, so may be there is another reason slowing down the system, therefore I had tried to change the virual RAM settings.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:15 PM

1) What is new or different since the last time everything worked properly (ie, new hw, new sw, virus, error, etc)?

 

2) Please describe EXACTLY what is slow.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:34 PM

 

1) What is new or different since the last time everything worked properly (ie, new hw, new sw, virus, error, etc)?

I do not have any clue. I absolutely don't know, what I could have done before the system slowed down extremely. I changed the virus program, AntiVir to Micro Essentials, but that didn't cause any slowness.

 

 

2) Please describe EXACTLY what is slow.

When I do the same action again and again after some time it becomes faster, e.g. drag a file to a renaming program and rename it and move it to another folder, the first time I drag a file to the renaming program, I have to drag it a few times to get it inserted in that program, the renaming lasts long, then the copying to another folder, also. When repeating this action it becomes faster and faster, so at the end I can drag a file the normal way to the program, just a second or less is needed to do it. The first time I try to access an open program it does not react, I have to wait for a minute or so.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:47 PM

Okay, a few things.

 

1) Why did you change your AV? After installing MSE, you did fully uninstall the other AV, correct?

 

2) Have you run full scans with BOTH your installed AV and with MalwareBytes? If not, please do so.

 

3) Do you experience the same issue in safe mode? If you haven't tried, please do so.

 

4) Do you have more than one user account? If so, is the issue present in all accounts?

 

5) Please look in device manager. Are there any yellow or red symbols?


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 03:04 PM

 

1) Why did you change your AV? After installing MSE, you did fully uninstall the other AV, correct?

Yes, I did it with help here, according to the instructions here.

 

 

2) Have you run full scans with BOTH your installed AV and with MalwareBytes? If not, please do so.

Yes, I have done with MalwareBytes, SuperAntiVirus, Eset online scanner.

 

 

3) Do you experience the same issue in safe mode? If you haven't tried, please do so.

In that mode it was faster, but I will try again.

 

 

4) Do you have more than one user account? If so, is the issue present in all accounts?

No, one account (the account of "Gast" is automatically created by Win, I assume) : http://i.imgur.com/IOaztHT.png

 

 

5) Please look in device manager. Are there any yellow or red symbols?

No, any such symbols: http://i.imgur.com/cJKcGUC.png


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