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#1 wavemaker

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 06:31 PM

Gooday all. I am not able to get my computer to boot from a disc in either of my drives. I have been to "Set Up" and checked that I have the boot order correct. I have tapped F8 and tried to manually boot from the DD. The biggest issue is that this behaviour is erratic. Meaning that every now and then it cooperates. Yesterday I was able to boot from a G Parted disc and also able to install a linux distro on my second hard drive I decided that I would like to try another distro so went to boot G Parted to reformat and I have not been able to do so. As can be seen from the accompanying Speccy file, it's a fairly old (read ancient) computer and I really don't expect too much from it. But, why will do it one day and not the next. Any help appreciated.

 

 

 

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 07:16 PM

Hi,

Have you tried using the installation disk and the startup repair utility? I'm assuming that the date and time are staying correct and current. If not it could be the CMOS battery.

Keep us posted


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 10:40 PM

Thanks dicke. Do you mean my Windows disc or the distro disc? I just managed to get it to boot with a Full Monty disc but I can't get Gparted or Parted Magic to boot. I didn't pay attention to time and date but I have a spare battery so I'll stick that in anyway. I have no recollection of ever having replaced it on this machine :idea:


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 01:45 AM

New battery did not help.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 07:06 AM

Sounds like we need to look at both hardware failure and software corruption.

The windows installation disk should allow you to do a startup repair and either the HDD vendors utility or one of the free surface scanners should be able to tell you about the health of things

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 07:32 AM

Coming at it from a different angle, I assume you can still boot into Windows 7 (due to fact that you've attached a Speccy log).  Is that the case?

 

If so, I think we should check that the optical disks you are trying to boot from are fully readable.  I personally like Nero Disc Speed for this.  You can download it from Nero and it's under "Free Tools".  It's a useful program and doesn't take up much room.

 

Fire it up and insert the disc you are having problems with into one of the optical drives and choose the "Scan Disc" tab and run a read test.  If it's struggling with any part of the disc, it will show as either damaged or bad.

 

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If any part is unreadable, the best course of action is probably then to burn your iso to a new disc but make sure you set it to the lowest speed setting (this tends to be more reliable).

 

EDIT I would also add that many Linux distro's include Gparted or equivalent in their Live CD's.  You might not need to use a separate Gparted CD at all.


Edited by jonuk76, 19 June 2014 - 07:36 AM.

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 07:01 PM

Thanks dicke and jonuk76. Jon I have downloaded and run the nero programme. My PCLOS Full Monty went through and got a clean bill of health. Both the Parted Magic, which I downloaded and burned yesterday and G Parted which I have used as recently as last month failed with the following output.

Error. No seek complete. 030200. So there is the villain.

I have installed PCLOS and updated and it is running well. So, at this point I don't need to take this further. I will make a new copy of G Parted and make sure it is verified after the burning process and see how that works. Thanks to you both again.

 

I need to mark this as resolved but can't find the button to edit my first post.


Edited by wavemaker, 19 June 2014 - 07:05 PM.

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 07:37 PM

I'm not sure that there is a 'resolved' button with this system

If you feel strongly enough about it you could click on the 'report' button and send a message to a moderator to lock the thread as solved / complete.

Otherwise I think that threads lock after a period of inactivity. I just don't know how long that is

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 08:11 PM

i just reread your post jonuk76 and did the scan disc properly. The ensuing report on my freshly burned Parted Magic showed it as good. However the puter wont boot from it. I will try another one and use linux to download and burn. Get back to you shortly.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 08:52 PM

Yes it might be worth re-burning at a slow speed anyway..

 

Does the computer attempt to boot from these discs and then fail?  Does it get as far as loading anything at all like a boot menu or does it show any kernel messages on screen?

 

Or is it more like it just doesn't read the disc and continues to boot from the hard drive?

 

I've run into issues with booting some Linux live CD's on some PC's (including specialist ones like Gparted and Parted Magic).  It seems they can be fussy about the PC.  Sometimes I've been able to get around it using a "safe mode" or "VESA mode" option (usually from the initial disk menu).  Of course none of that will work if it's not booting from the disc at all.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 05:39 PM

Well smack my arse and call me Cindy. I just logged off windows to reboot into PCLOS and left the parted magic disc in the drive. It booted from the disc but froze once at the start screen. I tried a number of different options but got the same result. I gave up.

Using Image Burn I made another disc but get advised that my disc drive wont burn at anything under 16x. That seems unusual as I am pretty sure I have burned at 4x in the past. This disc works.

I have also had issues with some linux distros and gparted in the past and used VESA to get them going but this is just random farting around so I think I will just let it through to the keeper. I have my full monty to play with and this  occurrence will just push me to a new puter sooner rather than later.


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