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#1 Bezukhov

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 02:47 PM

A few extra dollars fell into my lap a couple of weeks ago (someone went all-in on an ace high flush when I was holding a full house, queens over tens). So a new computer is waiting to be built. The most demanding tasks I'll probably ask of it is to burn a DVD for an elderly relative, or convert a video to play on my phone. The OS is going to be Kubuntu, and probably Windows 8 in a virtual machine for my ongoing studies.  Still, if anyone thinks I could get by with less...

 

Intel Core i7-4790    $315

 

MSI ATX DDR3 2400 LGA 1150 Motherboards Z97 PC MATE   $110

 

Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR3 1600 MT/s (PC3-12800) CL9 @1.5V UDIMM 240-Pin Memory BLS2KIT8G3D1609DS1S00      $140

 

Corsair CX Series 750 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Bronze ATX12V/EPS12V 744 Power Supply CX750M  $84

 

NZXT Source 210 ELITE Midtower Case with 3.0 USB - Black $62

 

Samsung Electronics 840 Pro Series 2.5-Inch 256 GB SATA 6GB/s Solid State Drive MZ-7PD256BW  $190

 

Seagate Barracuda 3 TB HDD SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 7200 RPM 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST3000DM001 $105

 

Lite-On 24X SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive Optical Drive IHAS124-14  $22

 

I don't do gaming so I decided to forgo a dedicated graphics card.

 

 

ETA: Just as a comparison this it what it will replace:

 

eMachines ET1161-07 

 

Don't laugh, it still works great.


 

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 03:04 PM

Congrats on the win!

 

You could definitely get by with less ;)   But why not elaborate more on what you plan to use the system for?



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Posted 18 June 2014 - 03:47 PM

Not much more, except for web browsing. I am hoping that this setup will still be relevant in 10+ years. Future Proof is the phrase I'm after.
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Posted 18 June 2014 - 04:14 PM

The only component that i would change is the power supply. Consider something that has a higher build quality for reliability reasons and high efficiency rate like the Seasonic SS-660XP2


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 04:41 PM

10 years is tough to predict in the tech universe. There are still win98 PCs being used today, and as you said your current system is still relevant.

 

You're a long, long way from 16Gb Ram being too little. At this point 8Gb is overkill. 4Gb is average, so I would think the sweet spot would be 6Gb- but no more than 8gb unless you're doing video-editing or CGI.

 

Not feeling that motherboard- MSI is a decent brand but PC-Mate? Never heard of. Get a direct MSI board, or even a Gigabyte.

 

You could save a bundle by NOT buying from Amazon. Check out Newegg.com or Tigerdirect.com for starters.

 

Then check out (I can't remember the link but it's a place where you can specify a part, and the site will automatically tell you which seller is the cheapest. You can build an entire PC with this site- pcparts????)

 

With the money you save I would invest in an external HDD or some sort of backup drive strictly for image backups.

 

You haven't specified a GPU. That board you've selected has integrated video, but you could go better with an add-on card. Lots of possibilities here- but it depends on what kind of experience you want with the system.

 

You haven't mentioned a monitor, so if you have the cash get a nice big one- or maybe two :D



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Posted 18 June 2014 - 04:56 PM

Thank you, Netghost and Killer. This windfall went to my head. I'm going back to the drawing board. 1200 for a computer? What was I thinking? 
 

You haven't mentioned a monitor, so if you have the cash get a nice big one- or maybe two :D

 
Actually I was hoping to hang on to my current monitor.

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 03:11 PM

This is the best I could come up with. I ditched the idea of a quad core processor sans hyper-threading for a dual core with hyper-threading. Compared to what I have now it is four times the computer for only twice the price of the old one..

Intel Core i3-4360 LGA 1150 $160

ASRock Z97 Pro4 LGA 1150 Intel Z97 $110

Kingston HyperX FURY 8GB Kit (2x4GB) $70

NZXT Technologies Source 210 $40

Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5-Inch SATA III $135

Rosewill RNX-N250PCe (RNWD-11005) Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCI Express $19

Western Digital Caviar Green 3 TB SATA III 64 MB Cache Bare $114

SABRENT 3.5-Inch to SSD / 2.5-Inch HDD Bay Drives Converter $7

SeaSonic SSP-450RT 450W ATX12V 80 PLUS GOLD $65

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium with SP1 64-bit $100

Lite-On 24X SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive $22

Still less than $900, taking into account that some items don't have free shipping, and of course what the leg breakers down at the State House want for their cut.

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 04:04 PM

You have certainly hit the nail on this one as everything looks compatible while being suitable for your uses rather then a complete overkill. One suggestion would be investing in a all aluminium case for durability reason and may be a aftermarket air cooler. 


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Posted 27 June 2014 - 07:44 AM

Thanks for the input. As far as an aluminium case goes I'll have to pass for now. The prices made me cringe. Also there is some debate as to which really is better, aluminium or steel, and after reading several opinions I'm kind of leaning towards steel.

Now an after market cooler is something definitely on the radar. First, though, I'll through down for a couple of extra chassis fans and see how that helps.
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Posted 27 June 2014 - 08:39 AM

FWIW my opinion is that the design and build quality is more important than the material.  I've owned a few aluminium cases (Lian Li and CoolerMaster) and while they look good, the novelty of that wears off.  I don't think the material it's made of has any functional impact, it's mainly cosmetic (and they are of course lighter).  Neither of them had anywhere to really hide cables so the wiring can look a bit messy (current models from both companies are much better in that regard however).  The Corsair 200R I'm using for my main PC at the moment was fairly cheap, is made of matt black painted steel and plastic but it has some nice design touches and was a pleasure to build with.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 08:56 AM

The Corsair 200R I'm using for my main PC at the moment was fairly cheap, is made of matt black painted steel and plastic but it has some nice design touches and was a pleasure to build with.


After comparing my original choice with your's, I'll take the Corsair. $10 more won't break the bank, besides I won't have to worry about that $7 drive bay converter.
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 09:28 PM

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!

Intel Core i5-4690 Haswell Quad-Core 3.5GHz LGA 1150 84W Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4600 BX80646I54690 $225

ASRock Z97 Pro4 LGA 1150 Intel Z97 $110

Kingston HyperX FURY 8GB Kit (2x4GB) $70

Corsair Carbide Series 200R Black Steel / Plastic compact ATX Mid Tower Case

Samsung Electronics MZ-7PD128BW 840 Pro Series 2.5-Inch 128GB SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive

Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST3000DM001 3TB 7200 RPM

Seasonic SS-520FL 520W Fanless 80 PLUS Platinum ATX12V/EPS12V Power Supply $140

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 09:39 PM

The list looks great but even better this time then the last but may be you could consider something like Corsair H80i to keep the system quiet under load and cool.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:47 PM

The list looks great but even better this time then the last but may be you could consider something like Corsair H80i to keep the system quiet under load and cool.


That's a good idea. An insurance policy. My budget was a grand, so there's room for an aftermarket cooler, and a few other things that will pop up in the near future.

ETA: Wait, this is my first build, how complicated is it dealing with a liquid cooler?

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:13 AM

The mechanism to install it is very straight forward plus the instructions included are very detailed will guide you to installing it and there is always youtube to help you.


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