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How much RAM necessary to run Win properly?


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#1 Dirkk

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 08:19 AM

How much RAM do you need to run Win properly? E.g. I have 4 GB RAM, is it enough to have 0,5 GB of free RAM when 3,5 GB are in use?


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 08:57 AM

Please download MiniToolBox  , save it to your desktop and run it.
 
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Click Go and paste the content into your next post.
 
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Posted 14 June 2014 - 09:03 AM

There're 4 kinds of memory usage (See Windows' "Resource Monitor"):

- In use (that's where all the files are "hiding" you need to run Windows, a wordprocessor, etc.

- Modified.

- Standby.

- Free

Only if "In use" is (much) larger than say 60% or 70% of all memory installed then you should start to worry.

Win 7 can be run with 2 GB of memory but it's better to have 4 GB of memory. Then Win 7 runs much more smoothly.

See also:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/windows-7-memory-usage-whats-the-best-way-to-measure/1786


Edited by Willy22, 14 June 2014 - 09:13 AM.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 09:14 AM

 In general 4 GB is fine, but it really depends on what you're doing.  If you're starting 30 tasks or if you're doing video editing, then 4 GB might not be enough.  The thing to look for is paging.  Since paging takes things out of RAM and puts them on the hard drive, that can slow things down drastically.  Windows 7 tries to use as much RAM as possible in order to maximize performance, so when you see a small amount free doesn't mean there's a problem.  That said, RAM is pretty cheap.  You could go to crucial.com and run their app to see what your options for adding more are and what they would cost.

 

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 01:48 PM

Thank you very much.

 

MiniToolBox by Farbar  Version: 13-06-2014
Ran by Dirk (administrator) on 14-06-2014 at 20:23:41
Running from "I:\Downloads"
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium  Service Pack 1 (X64)
Boot Mode: Normal
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========================= Event log errors: ===============================

Application errors:
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Error: (06/14/2014 07:29:44 PM) (Source: Application Error) (User: )
Description: Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: thunderbird.exe, Version: 24.6.0.5274, Zeitstempel: 0x5396c4a8
Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: MSVCR100.dll, Version: 10.0.30319.1, Zeitstempel: 0x4ba1dbbe
Ausnahmecode: 0xc0000417
Fehleroffset: 0x0008ae6e
ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0x2fac
Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0xthunderbird.exe0
Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: thunderbird.exe1
Pfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: thunderbird.exe2
Berichtskennung: thunderbird.exe3

Error: (06/14/2014 07:25:16 PM) (Source: Application Error) (User: )
Description: Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: thunderbird.exe, Version: 24.6.0.5274, Zeitstempel: 0x5396c4a8
Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: MSVCR100.dll, Version: 10.0.30319.1, Zeitstempel: 0x4ba1dbbe
Ausnahmecode: 0xc0000417
Fehleroffset: 0x0008ae6e
ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0x206c
Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0xthunderbird.exe0
Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: thunderbird.exe1
Pfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: thunderbird.exe2
Berichtskennung: thunderbird.exe3

Error: (06/13/2014 06:19:56 PM) (Source: RasClient) (User: )
Description: CoID={EAF1E3A1-C6D2-4BAE-A19F-E0797A008D7A}: Der Benutzer "Dirk-PC\Dirk" hat eine Verbindung mit dem Namen "Breitbandverbindung" gewählt, die Verbindung konnte jedoch nicht hergestellt werden. Der durch den Fehler zurückgegebene Ursachencode lautet: 0.

Error: (06/13/2014 02:33:34 PM) (Source: Application Error) (User: )
Description: Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: notepad++.exe, Version: 6.6.3.0, Zeitstempel: 0x53791525
Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: notepad++.exe, Version: 6.6.3.0, Zeitstempel: 0x53791525
Ausnahmecode: 0xc0000005
Fehleroffset: 0x0000e1e5
ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0x37b4
Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0xnotepad++.exe0
Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: notepad++.exe1
Pfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: notepad++.exe2
Berichtskennung: notepad++.exe3

Error: (06/13/2014 08:43:11 AM) (Source: RasClient) (User: )
Description: CoID={B8EE489E-E3C3-407A-9489-9F6CF3728EF6}: Der Benutzer "Dirk-PC\Dirk" hat eine Verbindung mit dem Namen "Breitbandverbindung" gewählt, die Verbindung konnte jedoch nicht hergestellt werden. Der durch den Fehler zurückgegebene Ursachencode lautet: 0.

Error: (06/12/2014 09:34:33 PM) (Source: RasClient) (User: )
Description: CoID={41A81772-7820-4759-BB9B-5A92BE453BC0}: Der Benutzer "Dirk-PC\Dirk" hat eine Verbindung mit dem Namen "Breitbandverbindung" gewählt, die Verbindung konnte jedoch nicht hergestellt werden. Der durch den Fehler zurückgegebene Ursachencode lautet: 651.

Error: (06/12/2014 07:52:23 AM) (Source: Application Error) (User: )
Description: Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: FreeCell.exe, Version: 6.1.7600.16385, Zeitstempel: 0x4a5bc9f8
Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: FreeCell.exe, Version: 6.1.7600.16385, Zeitstempel: 0x4a5bc9f8
Ausnahmecode: 0xc0000005
Fehleroffset: 0x00000000000468bd
ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0x1dac
Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0xFreeCell.exe0
Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: FreeCell.exe1
Pfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: FreeCell.exe2
Berichtskennung: FreeCell.exe3

Error: (06/12/2014 07:52:14 AM) (Source: RasClient) (User: )
Description: CoID={62E314D1-1911-4026-B26C-08547E5D68A6}: Der Benutzer "Dirk-PC\Dirk" hat eine Verbindung mit dem Namen "Breitbandverbindung" gewählt, die Verbindung konnte jedoch nicht hergestellt werden. Der durch den Fehler zurückgegebene Ursachencode lautet: 651.

Error: (06/12/2014 00:35:32 AM) (Source: SideBySide) (User: )
Description: Fehler beim Generieren des Aktivierungskontextes für "Microsoft.VC80.MFC,processorArchitecture="x86",publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",type="win32",version="8.0.50727.762"1".
Die abhängige Assemblierung "Microsoft.VC80.MFC,processorArchitecture="x86",publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",type="win32",version="8.0.50727.762"" konnte nicht gefunden werden.
Verwenden Sie für eine detaillierte Diagnose das Programm "sxstrace.exe".

Error: (06/11/2014 05:38:10 PM) (Source: RasClient) (User: )
Description: CoID={A22DC757-F84D-485E-9E4D-AE5582F0161F}: Der Benutzer "Dirk-PC\Dirk" hat eine Verbindung mit dem Namen "Breitbandverbindung" gewählt, die Verbindung konnte jedoch nicht hergestellt werden. Der durch den Fehler zurückgegebene Ursachencode lautet: 0.


System errors:
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Error: (06/13/2014 11:41:52 PM) (Source: Disk) (User: )
Description: Der Treiber hat einen Controllerfehler auf \Device\Harddisk2\DR3 gefunden.

Error: (06/13/2014 11:41:52 PM) (Source: Disk) (User: )
Description: Der Treiber hat einen Controllerfehler auf \Device\Harddisk2\DR3 gefunden.

Error: (06/13/2014 11:41:51 PM) (Source: Disk) (User: )
Description: Der Treiber hat einen Controllerfehler auf \Device\Harddisk2\DR3 gefunden.

Error: (06/13/2014 11:41:51 PM) (Source: Disk) (User: )
Description: Der Treiber hat einen Controllerfehler auf \Device\Harddisk2\DR3 gefunden.

Error: (06/13/2014 11:41:50 PM) (Source: Disk) (User: )
Description: Der Treiber hat einen Controllerfehler auf \Device\Harddisk2\DR3 gefunden.

Error: (06/13/2014 07:47:02 PM) (Source: Microsoft-Windows-WindowsUpdateClient) (User: NT-AUTORITÄT)
Description: Installationsfehler: Die Installation des folgenden Updates ist mit Fehler 0x80070643 fehlgeschlagen: Definitionsupdate für Microsoft Security Essentials – KB2310138 (Definition 1.175.2155.0)

Error: (06/13/2014 07:39:59 PM) (Source: Microsoft Antimalware) (User: )
Description: Beim Aktualisieren der Signaturen wurde von %NT-AUTORITÄT60 ein Fehler festgestellt.

    Neue Signaturversion:

    Vorherige Signaturversion: 1.175.1457.0

    Aktualisierungsquelle: %NT-AUTORITÄT51

    Aktualisierungsphase: 4.5.0216.00

    Quellpfad: 4.5.0216.01

    Signaturtyp: %NT-AUTORITÄT602

    Aktualisierungstyp: %NT-AUTORITÄT604

    Benutzer: NT-AUTORITÄT\NETZWERKDIENST

    Aktuelle Modulversion: %NT-AUTORITÄT605

    Vorherige Modulversion: %NT-AUTORITÄT606

    Fehlercode: %NT-AUTORITÄT607

    Fehlerbeschreibung: %NT-AUTORITÄT608

Error: (06/13/2014 07:39:59 PM) (Source: Microsoft Antimalware) (User: )
Description: Beim Aktualisieren der Signaturen wurde von %NT-AUTORITÄT60 ein Fehler festgestellt.

    Neue Signaturversion:

    Vorherige Signaturversion: 1.175.1457.0

    Aktualisierungsquelle: %NT-AUTORITÄT51

    Aktualisierungsphase: 4.5.0216.00

    Quellpfad: 4.5.0216.01

    Signaturtyp: %NT-AUTORITÄT602

    Aktualisierungstyp: %NT-AUTORITÄT604

    Benutzer: NT-AUTORITÄT\NETZWERKDIENST

    Aktuelle Modulversion: %NT-AUTORITÄT605

    Vorherige Modulversion: %NT-AUTORITÄT606

    Fehlercode: %NT-AUTORITÄT607

    Fehlerbeschreibung: %NT-AUTORITÄT608

Error: (06/13/2014 07:32:51 PM) (Source: Microsoft Antimalware) (User: )
Description: Beim Aktualisieren der Signaturen wurde von %NT-AUTORITÄT60 ein Fehler festgestellt.

    Neue Signaturversion:

    Vorherige Signaturversion: 1.175.1457.0

    Aktualisierungsquelle: %NT-AUTORITÄT59

    Aktualisierungsphase: 4.5.0216.00

    Quellpfad: 4.5.0216.01

    Signaturtyp: %NT-AUTORITÄT602

    Aktualisierungstyp: %NT-AUTORITÄT604

    Benutzer: NT-AUTORITÄT\SYSTEM

    Aktuelle Modulversion: %NT-AUTORITÄT605

    Vorherige Modulversion: %NT-AUTORITÄT606

    Fehlercode: %NT-AUTORITÄT607

    Fehlerbeschreibung: %NT-AUTORITÄT608

Error: (06/13/2014 07:32:43 PM) (Source: Microsoft Antimalware) (User: )
Description: Beim Aktualisieren der Signaturen wurde von %NT-AUTORITÄT60 ein Fehler festgestellt.

    Neue Signaturversion:

    Vorherige Signaturversion:

    Aktualisierungsquelle: %NT-AUTORITÄT15

    Aktualisierungsphase: 4.5.0216.00

    Quellpfad: 4.5.0216.01

    Signaturtyp: %NT-AUTORITÄT602

    Aktualisierungstyp: %NT-AUTORITÄT604

    Benutzer: NT-AUTORITÄT\SYSTEM

    Aktuelle Modulversion: %NT-AUTORITÄT605

    Vorherige Modulversion: %NT-AUTORITÄT606

    Fehlercode: %NT-AUTORITÄT607

    Fehlerbeschreibung: %NT-AUTORITÄT608


Microsoft Office Sessions:
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Error: (06/14/2014 07:29:44 PM) (Source: Application Error)(User: )
Description: thunderbird.exe24.6.0.52745396c4a8MSVCR100.dll10.0.30319.14ba1dbbec00004170008ae6e2fac01cf87f6399b97a5I:\LiberKey\Apps\Thunderbird\App\Thunderbird\thunderbird.exeI:\LiberKey\Apps\Thunderbird\App\Thunderbird\MSVCR100.dll78e3bfc5-f3e9-11e3-ac56-0009dd64afce

Error: (06/14/2014 07:25:16 PM) (Source: Application Error)(User: )
Description: thunderbird.exe24.6.0.52745396c4a8MSVCR100.dll10.0.30319.14ba1dbbec00004170008ae6e206c01cf87f5997d16b3I:\LiberKey\Apps\Thunderbird\App\Thunderbird\thunderbird.exeI:\LiberKey\Apps\Thunderbird\App\Thunderbird\MSVCR100.dlld92f25c0-f3e8-11e3-ac56-0009dd64afce

Error: (06/13/2014 06:19:56 PM) (Source: RasClient)(User: )
Description: {EAF1E3A1-C6D2-4BAE-A19F-E0797A008D7A}Dirk-PC\DirkBreitbandverbindung0

Error: (06/13/2014 02:33:34 PM) (Source: Application Error)(User: )
Description: notepad++.exe6.6.3.053791525notepad++.exe6.6.3.053791525c00000050000e1e537b401cf7fca0e8a384eI:\PortableApps\PortableApps\Notepad++Portable\App\Notepad++\notepad++.exeI:\PortableApps\PortableApps\Notepad++Portable\App\Notepad++\notepad++.exeee9c9139-f2f6-11e3-8bb5-0009dd64afce

Error: (06/13/2014 08:43:11 AM) (Source: RasClient)(User: )
Description: {B8EE489E-E3C3-407A-9489-9F6CF3728EF6}Dirk-PC\DirkBreitbandverbindung0

Error: (06/12/2014 09:34:33 PM) (Source: RasClient)(User: )
Description: {41A81772-7820-4759-BB9B-5A92BE453BC0}Dirk-PC\DirkBreitbandverbindung651

Error: (06/12/2014 07:52:23 AM) (Source: Application Error)(User: )
Description: FreeCell.exe6.1.7600.163854a5bc9f8FreeCell.exe6.1.7600.163854a5bc9f8c000000500000000000468bd1dac01cf83a1cebbfcfdC:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\FreeCell\FreeCell.exeC:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\FreeCell\FreeCell.exeb8c56653-f1f5-11e3-8bb5-0009dd64afce

Error: (06/12/2014 07:52:14 AM) (Source: RasClient)(User: )
Description: {62E314D1-1911-4026-B26C-08547E5D68A6}Dirk-PC\DirkBreitbandverbindung651

Error: (06/12/2014 00:35:32 AM) (Source: SideBySide)(User: )
Description: Microsoft.VC80.MFC,processorArchitecture="x86",publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",type="win32",version="8.0.50727.762"c:\program files (x86)\EaseUS\easeus partition master 9.2.2\DRW\RdfCheck.exe

Error: (06/11/2014 05:38:10 PM) (Source: RasClient)(User: )
Description: {A22DC757-F84D-485E-9E4D-AE5582F0161F}Dirk-PC\DirkBreitbandverbindung0



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3 Drive i: (Dirk) (Fixed) (Total:847.05 GB) (Free:44.27 GB) NTFS

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Only if "In use" is (much) larger than say 60% or 70% of all memory installed then you should start to worry.

Hmmm, so it looks like I could start to worry (unfortunately I do not have any idea how to switch the TM to English):

http://i.imgur.com/2Dbordl.png

http://i.imgur.com/YtFx9CP.png

http://i.imgur.com/M3PyWDh.png

 

I have never understood, what the blue line means...and the green lines.

 

 

The thing to look for is paging.

Sorry, what does paging mean? To source out capacity to hard disc?

 

 

You could go to crucial.com and run their app

Done, never known that there is such an option, the scan shows this: http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/5FED2CCD31D926C3

I guess, I have to remove 2 GB of my RAM and replace it with such a 4 GB RAM kit to get 6 GB...or 8 GB to get 10 GB...ah no, 8 GB, I would have to remove these 2 sticks of my old RAM, I assume.

I obviously need DDR3-SDRAM. I have such a piece from Hyundai.


Edited by Dirkk, 14 June 2014 - 02:00 PM.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 02:16 PM

  First let me say ich nicht spreche Deutsch!  However I was able to translate that Speccy report into English, and I noticed a couple of things.  First your CPU is 67 degrees C.  That's much too hot.  You want it under 50.  Next I see you have Java installed.  Most apps today don't use it, so I'd recommend uninstalling it unless you know you have a specific need.  If you do, be sure to keep it up to date because it's had many security exposures reported with it. 

 

Good luck.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 02:46 PM

 

First let me say ich nicht spreche Deutsch!

Oops, sorry, is there a switcher to turn Speccy to English? I could repeat a snapshot, of course.

 

The CPU too hot....I am wondering what I could do against it. Remove the dust...I already have pads under the Notebook to get a bit more space for better cooling, any idea if that helps. The ventilation is loud enough.

 

I have some (or many) programs needing Java, unfortunately, so I assume, I cannot remove it. Yes, it should be up to date.

 

Many thanks.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 02:51 PM

- "In verwendung" ist tatsächlich VIEL zu hoch, (that's confirmed by a high memory usage (85%). Although not surprising, after your notebook being switched on for 21 hours (ein und zwanzig Stunden). Firefox (~1 GB), JAVA (~ 600 MB) & Thunderbird (~ 350 MB). Combined already ~ 2 GB.

- About the colors in Resource Monitor:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/windows-7-memory-usage-whats-the-best-way-to-measure/1786

- Is Comodo your Anti virus program ? Then disable MS Security Essentials.

- JAVA seems to use a lot of CPU time. What does Task Manager tell about CPU usage ?

- Install PcWinTech's Cleanmem. It reduces memory usage. And let the program collapse the file cache as well. Let it run for a while and see what the new memory usage is.

- Yes. Speccy has the ability to show texts in english (or danish, french, spanish, etc.)


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 03:05 PM

 Dirkk, I haven't seen where you said whether you have a laptop or desktop.  If laptop, blow compressed gas through the air input ducts on the bottom.  If desktop, remove the cover and get rid of all the dust bunnies.  Blow out the intake ducts and be sure to get the crud out from between the CPU fan blades.  If a desktop is older than 3 years, you should consider replacing the thermal paste between the CPU and cooling fan.

 

 Re the translator, I'm not sure where it came from but when I opened your Speccy report, I got a popup asking if I wanted to translate to English.  Needless to say I quickly clicked yes.   :)


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 03:39 PM

firefox.exe     Process ID: 2500    Path: I:\PortableApps\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable\App\firefox\firefox.exe
Memory Usage: 1,00 GB    Peak Memory Usage: 1,05 GB

 

javaw.exe     Process ID: 508      Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe
Memory Usage: 242 MB      Peak Memory Usage: 247 MB
 
javaw.exe     Process ID: 7496    Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe
Memory Usage: 314 MB      Peak Memory Usage: 413 MB
 
Your RAM hogs.  Frankly, I would uninstall java and anything related to it...I would also take a look at removing ALL unnecessary browser add-ons.
 
You have Comodo Internet Security and MSE both installed and running.  Personally, I would uninstall the Comodo app, since they always caused problems on my systems relating to resource usage...one has to go.  The Windows Firewall is more than adequate, the only advantage of 3d-party firewalls relates to user fascination with stats and data...most users of Internet Security suites don't even know how to change their configurations or ever bother to read the settings and instructions, IMO...MSE and Windows Firewall are the best options for such persons.
 
The max operating temperature for your CPU is 90 Celsius, I would not worry about the current CPU temperature range or overheating of CPU  Ref:   http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i3/Intel-Core%20i3%20Mobile%20I3-370M%20CP80617004119AL.html .
 
You need to update IE...and probably all critical updates, whether you use IE as your preferred browser or not.
 
4GB of RAM should be able to handle what you seem to do...your browser should NOT be using 1GB out of the possible, IMO.
 
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Posted 14 June 2014 - 03:53 PM

 

- "In verwendung" ist tatsächlich VIEL zu hoch, (that's confirmed by a high memory usage (85%).

OK, so that means more RAM?

 

 

Although not surprising after your notebook being switched on for 21 hours (ein und zwanzig Stunden).

Wyh not surprising? Is there a connection to the RAM / CPU use?

I usually do not shut down (as long as it more or less runs properly) the Notebook, but let it hibernate, because shutting down and starting last a very long time and it is awkward.

 

 

Firefox (~1 GB), JAVA (~ 600 MB) & Thunderbird (~ 350 MB). Combined already ~ 2 GB.

I often close Firefox to free RAM, Thunderbird also. Firefox normally runs with about 300 MB.

 

Many thanks for the link.

 

 

- Is Comodo your Anti virus program ? Then disable MS Security Essentials.

No, Comodo is firewall, only, MS Security Essentials is anti virus, only. Hope, that is OK.

 

 

- JAVA seems to use a lot of CPU time. What does Task Manager tell about CPU usage ?

Yes, that is right, jDownloader (using Java) needs about 30 to 60 % or more.

 

 

- Install PcWinTech's Cleanmem. It reduces memory usage. And let the program collapse the file cache as well. Let it run for a while and see what the new memory usage is.

OK, I will try it. I had tried some RAM optimizing (or whatever) programs and all of them had let the computer crash.

 

 

I haven't seen where you said whether you have a laptop or desktop

It is a Notebook.

OK, I will do it with that gas, thank you.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 04:10 PM

 

Frankly, I would uninstall java and anything related to it

Yes, I would like to, but without Java some programs I use all the time wouldn't run anymore. By "related" you mean programs using Java like jDownloader?

 

 

I would also take a look at removing ALL unnecessary browser add-ons.

Yes, I had done it a long time ago, had set up a new Firefox, I will have a look again.

 

 

You have Comodo Internet Security and MSE both installed and running.  Personally, I would uninstall the Comodo app, since they always caused problems on my systems relating to resource usage...one has to go.

Actually I do not like the GUI of Comodo and somehow cannot cope with it. Some weeks ago I had Comodo and AntiVir running and I thought AntiVir might cause some trouble, but I am not sure. So just use the Win firewall and Win anti virus pogram should be enough?

 

 

most users of Internet Security suites don't even know how to change their configurations or ever bother to read the settings and instructions, IMO...MSE and Windows Firewall are the best options for such persons.

Ah, there is the answer, OK, I assume I am such a person.

 

Thanks for the link. I remember, I once had a problem with a PC CPU being too hot, the PC didn't work properly anymore.

 

 

You need to update IE...and probably all critical updates, whether you use IE as your preferred browser or not.

Yes, the missing updates for IE...I always get an error message since some months, updating failed for IE, do not know why.

 

 

4GB of RAM should be able to handle what you seem to do...your browser should NOT be using 1GB out of the possible, IMO.

Yes, I had opened some tabs, 10, 20, usually it uses about 300 MB, 250 or so, one tab opened.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 06:04 PM

- Some programs have a horrible memory management and then memory usage grows & grows as time goes by. That's why you should try Cleanmem. It curtails memory usage every 15 minutes (Firefox, JAVA, etc.). And let the program collapse the file cache. Cleanmem has a different approach. Uses very few system resources. I NEVER had any trouble with the program.

- More memory ? Try Cleanmem first BEFORE buying more memory. As said before 4 Gb should be enough for Win 7.

- Is jDownloader a Download Manager ? I am not familiar with it. Perhaps other download managers use less CPU time ? Then the fan shouldn't need to work overtime.

- If "Windows Update" keeps generating errors then try to run "Tweaking's Windows Repair". The program can solve A LOT OF problem in Windows (though not ALL problems).

 

- One thing that surprises me. Free disk space is on both the C:  & I: drive very low (<45 GB). Is this jDownloader related ?  Low free disk space could explain why shutting down your system is so slow.



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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:24 PM

 

- Some programs have a horrible memory management and then memory usage grows & grows as time goes by. That's why you should try Cleanmem. It curtails memory usage every 15 minutes (Firefox, JAVA, etc.). And let the program collapse the file cache. Cleanmem has a different approach. Uses very few system resources. I NEVER had any trouble with the program.

That sounds great. So Cleanmem works without user input. There does not seem to be a portable version, but I will try the installer one. I will install it, before shutting down the Notebook the next time.

 

 

Is jDownloader a Download Manager ? I am not familiar with it. Perhaps other download managers use less CPU time ?

Yes, it is. And yes, there will be a lot of other download managers using much less CPU / RAM, but there will not be any one with (all of) the options jD has.

 

Tweaking's Windows Repair. I am not quite sure, is it this one: http://www.tweaking.com/content/page/windows_repair_all_in_one.html?

But if it were that program, which option would I have to check? Ah, option 16, repair Win updates.

 

 

One thing that surprises me. Free disk space is on both the C:  & I: drive very low (<45 GB). Is this jDownloader related ?

So to say, actually the downloaded files which use the space on I:. The partition of C: is as small as possible for just the Operating System. Actually - I hope at least - it should be big enough to not to cause problems. I have learned about 15, 20 % free space minimum is needed for the partition the OS is running on. But I assume that would be too less, hiberfil.sys and pagefile.sys often need about 5 GB each.

After some time I move the files from I: to an external drive so I get about 250, 300 GB free space on I:.
 

 

Low free disk space could explain why shutting down your system is so slow.

 

Because the programs, open files have to be written fragmented? To properly close all of the open programs, confirming messages etc., yes, that takes a lot of time.


Edited by Dirkk, 14 June 2014 - 07:43 PM.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 09:56 PM

- Cleanmem is put to work by Task Scheduler and closes after it has done its work. So, it simpy needs to be installed.

- Low free disk space also means that swapfile is (highly) fragmented. And that slows down your system as well. Especially combined with high memory usage. So, low disk space is something you should have a critical look at.

- Windows actually grows and grows in size as well. E.g. it archives A LOT OF files.


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