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Setting up RAID-0 with Preinstalled OS


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#1 killerx525

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 04:58 AM

G'day all, i just recently purchased a Intel 520 120GB SSD and i am planning to put into Raid 0 with the exact same SSD in my current system. Windows 8.1 is currently installed on the single drive SSD and i was doing a bit of reading around to find that setting up RAID will wipe the drives. I was thinking of imaging my OS onto a spare drive then setting up RAID on both SSDs  and finally re-imaging it back onto the new Raid SSDs. If i was to go about doing that way, i would get a boot up issue due to the lack of Raid driver installed, so i was thinking may be i could install the Raid driver first then do the imaging but not exactly sure if that will work or not. This is my first time playing with RAID, so i am hoping i don't have to reinstall my OS. 

 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-D3

 

SSD: 2x Intel 520 120GB (OS installed on a single SSD)

 

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:44 AM

I'm pretty sure that you are going to be stuck doing a fresh Windows install.  The reason is the issue you have identified, RAID drivers.  Additionally your imaging software would have to be able to recognize the RAID array.

 

Back up your data, set up your array, install Windows, restore your data.



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Posted 11 June 2014 - 09:22 AM

I also recommend backing up data and doing the reload.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 04:02 PM

I don't exactly have any data unfortunately, just my software that i have to reinstall which is i am trying to avoid from doing but if nobody else has any ideas on how to tackle this then fresh install it is.


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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 12 June 2014 - 07:42 AM

There is a way but unfortunately it goes against policy to post it which I will respect. It is a breach of Microsoft software usage. I have never tried it with an ssd however. I would still recommend the reload either way. I am thinking there may be an issue with trim among other things.


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 08:27 AM

Trim isn't supported in most RAID solutions.  You have to rely on the drive's own garbage collection.



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Posted 12 June 2014 - 08:28 AM

You are correct, for some reason I forgot he was going to use raid...


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 04:19 PM

Ah i totally forgot, Trim was not supported in a Raid solution but thanks for pointing that out :) Well thanks for your help, i'll certainly be doing the fresh install but one other question, when i setup the Raid, is it recommended that i disconnect all other drives like my storage drives?


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 07:21 AM

You don't have to disconnect them but as a general rule of thumb to avoid the human mistake factor, I unplug all drives that are not going to be formatted/changed.


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 08:59 AM

I'm with zingo156, I disconnect all of the drives not needed until after Windows is installed.  Then I power down the machine, reconnect the drives, and then power on and let Windows install them.  As zingo156 said, this eliminates the human factor.



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Posted 14 June 2014 - 01:43 AM

I'll take the tip on board, thanks for the help and I will report back on how it all goes.

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 06:38 AM

Just reporting back that, i have successfully setup RAID-0 and man, the speed is crazy although there are only a few tasks that noticeable but my boot time is even faster since now Malwarebytes and SuperAntiSpyware protection module loads up super quick at boot now then before! Also I didn't install AMD SATA driver but i dont think i need to. Here are the speeds im getting: 

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Speeds are great although the write speed are a bit lacking :/


Edited by killerx525, 02 July 2014 - 06:38 AM.

>Michael 
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 07:14 AM

Both read and write are really good there. I do believe the 240gb drives are a bit faster with writes. Samsung 120gb vs 250gb drives have a pretty big difference in performance with writes as well. Still you have me beat by miles. I still boot my gaming rig OS from a Raid 1 7200rpm hard drive array. I do have an ssd in my media center (old 32gb X25-E) it is nice for the windows load time! I got the drive for free and corrected some errors on it.

 

I really should just spend the money and do what you did!


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Posted 02 July 2014 - 07:22 AM

I've always wanted to do RAID for my system but just couldn't afford two Samsung 840 Pro due to it's ridiculous high price in Australia but then a deal came up with the Intel 520 SSD for $70 and i thought what a bargain (yes, our stuff is expensive when compared to the USA). The 240GB is just 20mb/s faster then my model but at the time of purchase (2011), it was selling for a whooping $350+ and didn't really needed a larger SSD drive at the time.  


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Posted 02 July 2014 - 07:30 AM

20mb/s isn't worth the extra money IMO, there have been some good deals on the Samsung TLC evo 840 120gb for $74.99 in the past 2 weeks. I wish I would have bought 2 when it was that low. Now they are back up to $99 (US dollars) which is still pretty cheap. Intel drives are quite a bit more expensive.


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