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#1 Magnarider

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 09:51 PM

I have a HP Pavilion a1550 y with 4 GB RAM, Pentium D 945, Windows 8.1 and a Nvidia GeForce 7300 LE with 350 watt PSU.
 
What video card would you suggest with the power supply that I have now.
 
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Posted 01 June 2014 - 11:16 PM

Hi, do you have a specific use for the graphics card and a budget?

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Games: APB: Reloaded, Hours played: 3100+  System2: Late 2011 Macbook Pro 15inch   OFw63FY.png


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Posted 02 June 2014 - 05:24 AM

As far as use goes I just want the biggest and best that I can get. I would like to play Elder Scrolls Online or Witcher at Low settings if possible without any lag or glitching.

 

My budget would be about 40 USD and yes I know you cant get anything that cheap but I did find a GT 210 for 18 USD but I was hoping to find some more suggestions with my money and PSU.

 

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 06:04 AM

The GT210 is far too weak to play Elder Scrolls Online and Witcher on low settings but the best graphics card that i could find is the PNY GT610 but it would depend on the resolution you will be playing.


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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 02 June 2014 - 06:13 AM

That looks about the right price. What would the resolution have to be?

 

What happens when you run a video card at to low a power setting?

 

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 07:02 AM

To determine the resolution, what is the model of the current monitor you have? You cannot exactly control the power setting of the graphics card but you do not need to worry about that :)


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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 02 June 2014 - 11:58 AM

What I mean is what happens if I am running a 350 watt PSU and the card calls for 400 watts. Will that damage anything? 
 
 
 
 
Field Value
Monitor Properties
Monitor Name HP w1907
Monitor ID HWP26A2
Model HP w1907
Monitor Type 19" LCD (WXGA+)
Manufacture Date Week 35 / 2008
Serial Number 3CQ83507K8
Max. Visible Display Size 41 cm x 26 cm (19.1")
Picture Aspect Ratio 16:10
Horizontal Frequency 24 - 83 kHz
Vertical Frequency 50 - 76 Hz
Maximum Pixel Clock 140 MHz
Maximum Resolution 1440 x 900
Gamma 2.20
DPMS Mode Support Standby, Suspend, Active-Off
 
Supported Video Modes
640 x 480 76 Hz
800 x 480 76 Hz
800 x 600 76 Hz
1024 x 600 76 Hz
1024 x 768 76 Hz
1152 x 864 76 Hz
1280 x 720 76 Hz
1280 x 768 76 Hz
1280 x 800 76 Hz
1366 x 768 76 Hz
1440 x 900 76 Hz
 
Monitor Manufacturer
Company Name Hewlett-Packard Company


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Posted 02 June 2014 - 01:41 PM

You need to find out if your PSU even HAS PCIE power connectors on it first of all. On a system that old being OEM I doubt it will. 

Also you need to find out how many watts/amps it has on the 12V rail(s). That's very important information.

 

Having said all that what you essentially have is a dual core Pentium 4. That's (sorry) a horrible, old, old CPU (2005). You have PCIEX16 gen 1 (if at all) on that motherboard and you will bottleneck any reasonably decent video card because of it. You're also running very slow RAM. 

 

In short, is it worth upgrading this computer? No. I tried something similar in 2007 by putting a 3870 in a Pentium 4 machine. The results were dismal. That was a 3 year old system. This is a 9 year old system. You're asking for wine from water and it won't happen. You need a whole new system. Look at spending $700-800 and building it yourself for optimum results. 

 

Even a $60 modern CPU would run laps (at light speed) around your CPU. Don't put any more money into your system.


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Posted 02 June 2014 - 01:50 PM

I have been learning with it. Its the first computer that I have ever upgraded. Im just looking to put another 20-40 into it and see what happens.

 

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 04:09 PM

The GT 610 will certainly run on your system as the power it draws at full load is tiny and does not require any power connectors to run it properly. In terms of the resolution, it may or may not produce enough for the games to have a playable FPS.


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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 02 June 2014 - 04:15 PM

OK what is the big deal with the 5450?



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Posted 02 June 2014 - 05:37 PM

OK what is the big deal with the 5450?

 

You talking about GPUs? 5 series is 3-4 years ago and that's a rock bottom end card... Like I said before, sinking money into this system is pointless. It's too old.



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Posted 02 June 2014 - 05:52 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Dell-512MB-GDDR5-AMD-VisionTek-Radeon-VT-HD-5670-DVI-VGA-HDMI-Video-Card-/380916758717?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item58b06878bd                   

 

What do you think about  this?



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Posted 02 June 2014 - 06:36 PM

Dude you're looking at bottom end GPUs. They aren't even meant for gaming. The bare minimum to have an "acceptable" gaming experience at 720P on low settings is a 7770 in my opinion. 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-Radeon-HD7770-1GB-/161318940969?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item258f5bb129

 

Here's one for $51. That'll give you SOME visible improvement, but again, your Power Supply will have to have those PCIE power connectors. 

 

Again, this is a waste of money. You're going to bottleneck even that 7770 with your CPU and BUS.

 

Turn the thing into a home server or HTPC, and buy yourself a new computer.



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Posted 02 June 2014 - 09:03 PM

I know you wont approve but which is better.

 

ATI Radeon 256 mb x1300 pro

Sparkle computer GeForce 8500 GT 512 mb

GeForce 7900 GS 256 mb






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