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Upgrading Graphics Card


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#1 Shifty26

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 01:02 PM

Im looking to upgrade my graphics card but im not sure exactly what i need to be looking for.

Im not entirely sure but i think my motherboard is an XPS 8300? i dont know if this is correct

Currently i have a AMD Radeon HD 5450

 

 

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 

System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: XPS 8300
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM

 

Im looking to find out what i need to know before i buy a graphics card and any recommendations for a good graphics card.


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 03:49 PM

Before you do anything else, you need to know:

 

*How many watts is your power supply (ie 450, 500, etc)

 

*How many AMPS does it put out on the 12V rail(s)?

 

*Does it have two available 6/8 pin PCI express power connectors

 

Pictures of all this are available through a google image search.

 

Open your computers side panel and look at the power supply. The information Im after should be listed there. If its not, contact Dell and ask them.

 

Once you have all this information you can either buy a new graphics card, OR upgrade your power supply, then buy a new graphics card.

 

You have enough RAM to run any current game and your CPU is more than up to the task, despite being 3 years old.

 

Get back to me with the info I asked for and I can help you pick a card for your budget.



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Posted 27 May 2014 - 03:56 PM

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19364573.aspx

 

Have a read through that thread. Looks like you only have one PCIE power cable. No good. You will need to upgrade your power supply. I suggest a Corsair CX600. Its a 600 watt 80+ bronze power supply and it performs well and will get the job done. $50-70 depending on where you buy it. Newegg.com is a good place to get your computer parts. As for the GPU itself you can buy whatevers in your price range.

 

The minimum card I would suggest to get decent performance is an R9 270X. A GTX 760 is a little better and an R9 280X is better than that. Beyond that you have the R9 290 and the GTX 780 and at the top you have the R9 290X and 295 and the GTX 780 Ti and GTX Titan Black.

 

For 1080P gaming, you only need an R9 280X or GTX 770 to max out games. If you have a higher res monitor like 1440P, look at an R9 290 or GTX 780.



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Posted 30 May 2014 - 01:40 PM

So for the PSU, ive read some reviews say that that specific unit isn't very reliable. Is that true? Are there others you recommend?

 

And for the GPU im looking at the ones u suggested; either r9 270x or the gtx 760 (budget around $200-300)

Ive searched these gpu's on newegg.ca and noticed that there are different manufacturers (MSI, Asus, XFX). Some manufacturers are cheaper than others. Whats the difference between manufacturers?

 Is it worth to spend a little more on the gtx 760 or gtx 770 in the long run so i wont have to replace it as soon?

Also will the gtx 760 be able to play newer games on max settings?


Edited by Shifty26, 30 May 2014 - 01:43 PM.


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Posted 30 May 2014 - 01:51 PM

What's your budget? Then we can go from there...Mistersprinkles is absolutely correct, in that you will need to upgrade your PSU. I recommend Seasonic or XFX  or Thermaltake.



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Posted 30 May 2014 - 02:47 PM

For the psu around $50-100



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Posted 30 May 2014 - 04:20 PM

All you need is a Corsair CX500. They're often on sale for $35. 

 

If you can spare $300, pick up an R9 280X. You can often find them on Ebay and Amazon for well under $300. The retail price starts at $299 if you go to most online stores.

It's better than a GTX 760 an has an extra gigabyte of VRAM.

 

It doesn't really matter which brand you go with, unless there is a specific aftermarket control software, VRM layout, cooling design, etc you want.... If you want an aftermarket cooler such as a Windforce, DirectCU, etc, go for it. They tend to be quieter and run cooler. Many aftermarket cards such as these also have improved VRM (google it) for better overclocking potential. 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027&cm_re=CX_500-_-17-139-027-_-Product

CX 500 $50

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125490&cm_re=R9_280X-_-14-125-490-_-Product

R9 280X $299 (includes 3 games valued at $150)

 

Just a note- The CX 500 is a CHEAP PSU. It is not a great PSU but it puts out decent power without too much ripple and is a reasonably decent unit. If you want a better psu you can get an 80+ Gold Seasonic SSR 600W for about $99.


Edited by Mistersprinkles, 30 May 2014 - 04:23 PM.


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Posted 30 May 2014 - 08:16 PM

I don't know how many different models of the 8300 Dell made but if the following is similar to yours then read what follows-

 

There is a chance your case is also to small for a full size card- I didn't completely read this but should be help to you-

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1946946/graphics-card-dell-xps-8300.html

 

Maybe a 7770? read also here:

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/379363-33-dell-8300-graphics-card-upgrade


Edited by Bill1821, 30 May 2014 - 08:20 PM.


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Posted 31 May 2014 - 08:50 PM

If your case is too short for a long GPU you can get the ASUS GTX 670 Direct CU mini. It is the shortest midrange graphics card available. There's always a way. 

 

Meaty-Tasty-6-inches-long-Asus-GTX-670-M

 

It's the length of an ITX board.



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:33 PM

So I measured the interior from the back of the tower to the harddrive case and it came up to slightly over 10 inches (around 260 mm). Is this what determines the space available to fit a card?



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 09:51 PM

So I measured the interior from the back of the tower to the harddrive case and it came up to slightly over 10 inches (around 260 mm). Is this what determines the space available to fit a card?

 

Yup. I'd keep the card to 9.5" to give you a little wiggle room for installation. 






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