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Upgrading CPU and Motherboard Compatibility


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#1 ek89027

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 02:03 AM

Hello, I am trying to upgrade my computer because it cannot run some games (recent AAA title games like Wolfenstein, Watch Dogs and others.) above the recommendations. (Usually somewhere slightly above minimum according to an website that measures my computer. ) 

 

My computer specs are: 

 

CPU: AMD Phenom™ II X4 965 Processor, 3400 Mhz, 4 cores, 4 logical processors.

 

Motherboard: GA-890GPA-UD3H

 

Video Card: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series

 

OS: Win 7 Ultimate

 

Ram: 8G

 

 

My budget would 500 - 700 dollars to upgrade both the CPU and the Motherboard.

 

Anyway, after a bit of research, I am planning on purchasing a AMD FX-9370 Eight Core to replace my current CPU. But, I am under the impression that my current motherboard is not compatible with this model and I am wondering what would be a suitable upgrade for my motherboard to match that. 

 

Also am I making the right decision here on upgrading my CPU? Is there any other factors that I should be concerned about? 

 

Thank you in advance. 



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#2 killerx525

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 06:10 AM

Hi, motherboards that are compatible with the FX9370 are the usual high end AMD motherboards but also do not forget the CPU itself has a really high heat output meaning you will have to purchase a beefy cooling unit along with it. For the motherboard, you could go with the Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 which is packed with features for the price you for it and depending on the case you have, the Coolermaster Nepton 280L keep the heat down although it may or may not fit.


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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 27 May 2014 - 12:29 PM

Remember, the CPU you wanted is a high wattage unit requiring a very good cooling solution.  Make absolutely sure your case has enough cooling before getting this CPU.  The heat from the heatsink and fan has to go somewhere.  Many who get the FX-9370 opt for water cooling.


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 02:06 PM

Thank you for the quick replies.

 

So I guess the main problem would be the cooling.

 

I think the watercooling is a good option but I don't think I am savvy enough to maintain and install it without starting major disaster along the way. 

 

Unfortunately I do not know the brand of my computer so I just did the measurement for it which is: 

 

46 Height

46 Length 

20 Width 

 

Is my case big enough to fit the fan in? If not what are other alternatives I could look for? (Preferably internal. I have two dogs that lick and chew everything and I don't think anything outside the case would survive too long.  ) 



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Posted 27 May 2014 - 03:29 PM

Not to be a jerk but forget everything you've read so far in this thread.

 

You want to go Intel. You can get just as good/better in many games CPU and motherboard for less money than the sabretooth and high end FX were going to cost you. You won't need a beefy cooling solution, and your PC will output less heat.

 

Which specific videocard do you have? Run GPU-Z. It's free and you can find it easily with a google search. Take a screenshot of the GPUz screens and post them here.

 

If you have a 7950 or below, you won't get amazing gaming performance no matter what cpu you choose. It's important to know what GPU you have. Please get back to us on this.

 

For the rest of the system, all you need, literally, is a 4670K and an ASUS Z97-A motherboard. About $220 and $150 respectively. If you want to overclock the CPU buy a Noctua NHD14 heatsink. It ought to fit in your case.

 

There is also a 4770K which is an 8 thread (albeit 8 physical core) CPU just like the FX 8 core, but you do not NEED this for games. A 4670K will give you the exact same framerates (better in some games) as the AMD you wanted to buy at a much lower price.

 

So go buy that 4670K and Z97-A

And tell me what GPU you have.

 

How many Watts is your power supply and what brand and model is it

 

Also did you build this PC your self or did you buy it pre built

 

And remember you will need to reinstall windows after you change cpu and mobo.


Edited by Mistersprinkles, 27 May 2014 - 03:30 PM.


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 04:15 PM

I think the watercooling is a good option but I don't think I am savvy enough to maintain and install it without starting major disaster along the way. 

 

Unfortunately I do not know the brand of my computer so I just did the measurement for it which is: 

 

46 Height

46 Length 

20 Width 

 

The AIO cooling unit requires no maintenance at all and there should be a decent instruction manual you can follow when installing it to avoid any disaster. Any chance you could take a photo of the interior and exterior of your desktop? 


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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 27 May 2014 - 05:37 PM

Thank you for another series of replies.

 

So, I am trying to figure out my power source is but my lack of knowledge is getting in the way at the moment. (Primarily because I have no idea where it would be and how I can identify it. (Trying to find how I can figure it out. ) )

 

But here are some informations/pictures I got so far. 

 

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Also the topic feels like it has gotten a little bigger than what I had hoped. (With the potential possibility of upgrading different parts. ) So which parts should I prioritize in upgrading in my current rig? 

And the desktop I have right now was built by my brother who probably cannot remember how he built it as it has been sometime since we did any upgrade on it. (Also he is difficult to get a hold of for the next weeks due to him being off in vacation. )



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Posted 27 May 2014 - 06:22 PM

I have to say I prefer MrSprinkles recommendation of the i4670K.  This doesn't use huge amounts of power or require extreme cooling solutions, unlike the FX-9370, and will be as fast if not faster for almost all uses.

 

AFAIK the graphics card specs in the GPU-Z link are for a factory overclocked Radeon HD 7950 (stock speed is 800mhz - that's overclocked to 960mhz).  It should be a nice performing card, nearly as quick as the HD 7970.

 

The power supply is that big black thing with the large bundle of wires coming out of it in the bottom of the case :)  Check for identifying labels.  If necessary you can remove the four screws that attach it to the case and manouvre it out to get a better look (there should be no need to disconnect any internal wires to do this).


Edited by jonuk76, 27 May 2014 - 08:10 PM.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:03 AM

It's all really up to you ek89027, if you want to stick with AMD without the need for a extreme cooling solution then the FX8350 would do fine job and you would save some money in the process. Based from the photo provided, you will certainly need to remove the power supply by following jonuk76's instructions and hopefully on the other side of the power supply, there should be sticker with the details (Take a photo if possible).


>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 28 May 2014 - 05:09 PM

So after a sometime of tinkering I got it out. 

 

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As for sticking to the AMD, I have no brand preference. So if I decide to upgrade to the i4670K then would I need any upgraded software to run it? (Better power source, cooling, etc.) 

 

Thank you again for the replies. I am learning quite a lot from this whole process. 



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 07:37 PM

Oh wow, you have a very nice and high quality 520W power supply. If you went with the Intel Core i5-4670k, you will not need a new power supply or a high end cooling solution although you may as well get some sort of aftermarket cooler for it.  


Edited by killerx525, 28 May 2014 - 07:37 PM.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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