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Making permanent switch to Linux


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#1 Guest_RoutaSielu_*

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 03:11 PM

Thought I'll try Sabayon and downloaded Sabayon 14.05 KDE x86. I would also consider Mint or OpenSuSE as I've been pleased with both of those in the past. Machine is currently running Windows XP Pro, but support is over for XP so I'm thinking it's best to make the switch.

 

This is the hardware I'm using: Any recommendation to which distro I run?

 

Mobo: http://www.txmicro.com/product.php?productid=4108&gclid=CLmB18Cryr4CFWNgMgodrngAZg

 

CPU: http://ark.intel.com/products/27469/Intel-Pentium-4-Processor-550-supporting-HT-Technology-1M-Cache-3_40-GHz-800-MHz-FSB

 

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130233

 

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146970

          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147143

 

**Total the system has 3GB of RAM running in dual channel (128 bit) at 2.6v 3-3-3-8 stock voltage and timings. 2 sticks of the OCZ and 2 sticks of the Samsung.. so 2x 1GB + 2x 512MB

 

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148155

 

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703013

 

At my current apartment I'm only allowed to connect to internet via WiFi. So I've got an Asus USB-N13 adapter. It's shown to be Linux compatible, but looks like the driver needs to be installed by compiling from source. I've been told that I shouldn't need to do that as it should be supported natively by kernel.

I have no idea how to setup wireless in Linux.. seems it's become a pain to do so. Any tips how to get it setup and running well?

 

Used to have this adapter and it would automatically work just by plugging it in.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833314011

 

This is the one I'm using now (got it as a cheap upgrade to the Belkin one when it fried)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320040

 

Here's a screenshot of the contents of the CD that came with the Asus adapter if it helps.

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x327/jp52681/asusn13linux_zps56a3a395.jpg



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 04:06 PM

It all depends what you want to do mate... horses for courses.



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 06:53 PM

 

Sabayon 14.05 KDE

I have never used Sabayon so I cant help you much with it.

 

 

So I've got an Asus USB-N13 adapter. It's shown to be Linux compatible, but looks like the driver needs to be installed by compiling from source. I've been told that I shouldn't need to do that as it should be supported natively by kernel.

Usually linux detects this sort of stuff. All you most likley have to do is open internet connections and select the adapter, and enter a few details.  If you are really stuck, I can run my Kubuntu it's KDE and make a short video on how its done, It wont be exactly the same but it will give you an idea. Failing that I guess I can download Sabayon 14.05 KDE  and try it out then report back here in a few days.

 

Your Pc should run any linux without too much effort.  .

 

Sorry I cant help you much more. Like I said Give me a few days.  I am not well atm and am in and out of hospital a few times a week and while I can use their WiFi to surf the net they frown on downloading stuff.

 

 

 This should give you some idea on how its done. The distro may not be the same but the basics still apply.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=connect+ubuntu+to+wifi

 

Let me know if this helps,  You could try their forum https://forum.sabayon.org/viewforum.php?f=52

 

I was you I would go with Mint or another Buntu

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Edited by NickAu1, 26 May 2014 - 07:43 PM.


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 09:01 PM

I've never used Sabayon before either, but heard it's got native support for just about everything.. including Nvidia/ATi graphics. Not sure that will matter much, thought I read somewhere on the site that native support is NOT possible on legacy cards (like my GeForce 6200).

 

I could just download Mint (what's the latest release now? 16 or 17 I think?). I've done Ubuntu before as well as Mint, so no problem for me to find my way about with either one.

 

WiFi however is what's been causing me nothing more than a headache. The device is detected just fine when I run lsusb command. But when I open internet connections there is nothing there. Or it may show onboard ethernet port with a status of "disconnected cable" just as Windows would in the same situation.

 

Readout from lsusb

Bus 005 Device 004: ID 046d:c05a Logitech, Inc.
Bus 005 Device 002: ID 046d:c31c Logitech, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0b05:17ab ASUStek Computer, Inc.

Got that same readout from running Ubuntu live CD as well as from Ultimate Boot CD which has some version of Gentoo.

Considering the driver on the CD that came with the adapter shows to be RTL8188C, I'm guessing it's got a Realtek chip. I don't know why I should have to compile from source to install or anything like that. The old Belkin adapter I used few years ago had Realtek chip and never needed any kind of install. Just plugged it into USB port and clicked internet connections, then choose which connection and input pass phrase for secure connection.

 

Photo of the screen when I last tried from Ubuntu live CD. I believe that was Ubuntu 8.10 but I would use a newer version now.

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x327/jp52681/Picture003_zpsc5dcbff6.jpg



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 09:10 PM

Installing Windows Wireless Drivers in Linux


This tutorial shows 2 methods on installing a Windows wireless driver in Linux/Ubuntu. The first method shows how to do it on Mint 12, using the "Windows Network Drivers" utility, the GUI for ndiswrapper.

The second method shows how to do it from the command line with ndiswrapper. I also gave a couple of tips on how to obtain ndiswrapper, if it's not installed on your system by default

 

 

Video is not my work..

http://youtu.be/wchimaoe9KE


Edited by NickAu1, 26 May 2014 - 09:13 PM.


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 09:37 PM

If we are going to start recommending distro's willy nilly without knowing the machine objectives, I'd say Debian... The king of distros.

 

Being the source of Ubuntu based distros you should find it fairly easy to navigate also, go for the KDE desktop.

 

It all depends on what you want to do though...



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 09:53 PM

I only suggest what I use And I love my KDE.



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Posted 27 May 2014 - 07:09 PM

If we are going to start recommending distro's willy nilly without knowing the machine objectives, I'd say Debian... The king of distros.

 

Being the source of Ubuntu based distros you should find it fairly easy to navigate also, go for the KDE desktop.

 

It all depends on what you want to do though...

Mostly use it for browsing the web and some light gaming. By light gaming I mean browser type games (Forge of Empires) and older offline stuff like GTA Vice City, GTA San Andreas, The Ultimate Doom and I've got some of the older Sim City games.

I've had GTA Vice City working before just fine via wine, but San Andreas played rather slow (GeForce 6200 probably a bottleneck). I've heard there is an Ultimate Doom clone available in the repos called prboom.. but never had it successfully work. It would install fine, start up and then just sit at a blank screen.

 

Going to put in an old 40GB IDE drive that's just laying about and try full install of Sabayon on there to try it out. The drive is only 5400 rpm and 2MB buffer, probably about 12 years old or so. No big deal to me what happens to it, so should be alright to use for testing purposes. I'll see what I'm able to do and report back.

 

Hopefully I'll be getting a replacement mobo soon for my AMD Phenom X4 setup, then things should run a bit better. Should also be able to switch up to 64 bit OS as well. Can't really say this P4 setup is worthless... but my complaint is the onboard ADi SoundMax audio. It's more like SoundMin... the audio quality is horrible. Sounds like it's boosted at 1kHz, hardly any real output at high and low frequencies.. music is so lifeless.



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Posted 27 May 2014 - 08:34 PM

 

By light gaming I mean browser type games

I bet he loves Candy crush LOL I know I do.



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Posted 27 May 2014 - 09:28 PM

LOL, can't say I've ever played Candy Crush. I do love this game though:

 

http://www.flipline.com/games/jacksmith/index.html  :warrior:

 

OH, forgot to mention I also use ePSXe to play PlayStation games via PC. It seems to play them better than the actual PlayStation console does!

 

The main reason I want to get away from Windows though... my XP setup has 36 minidump files that all happened over a 2 day period!!

Each one (according to Bluescreenview) is at the fault of Nvidia driver crashing. The crashes happened because Windows kept downloading and installing some update that would corrupt the driver. Got fed up with having to keep reinstalling Nvidia driver. I now have Windows update disabled and no more crashes since.


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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:53 AM

A P4 with hyper-threading and 3GB RAM.  Hmm . . .

 

Sabayon requires a very good internet connection in my experience; if gaming is a priority, i would suggest trying out Linux Lite ; if performance is of higher priority, look into MX-14, then antiX (for even greater performance); if OP wants to get into the workings of GNU/Linux, then sabayon's root, gentoo;  if both the workings and good looks are desired, a Slackware distro like Salix with its choices of both Desktops and its inherent lightness coupled with your limited hardware resources would suggest, to me, Salix 32-bit XFCE (one may even choose between a Full or Basic install). 

 

I can only say what I know, but hope this helps.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:11 AM

I was thinking a light distro also... maybe Puppy?



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:49 AM

 

I was thinking a light distro also... maybe Puppy?

Yes And No.

 

 No, Puppy can be a bit noob unfriendly, You always run as root,  Manual Updating, You cant just install stuff not in PPM, Can be a pain if you do not want to learn.

 

Yes, Its light, Boots from anything, There are puppys where everything you need is preinstalled, You cant just install stuff not in PPM, Great if you really want to learn.



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:57 AM

Admittedly you have more experience than me with Puppy Nick, I just installed it to try it out for a few days.

 

I was reading some internet of things earlier and came across this article,

 

http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2014/02/linux-the-top-5-lightweight-distros-of-2014/

 

Might be of interest to you Routa...



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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:46 PM

I'm going to give Sabayon a quick try since I've already got it downloaded and burned out.

 

I have tried Puppy before on some older hardware and it does run quite well, but I'm not much a fan and it was tricky to figure out some stuff.

I've had Mint and OpenSuSE KDE run just fine on here before as well as on an old Dell machine that was running a socket 423 P4 (1.5GHz/256k/400MHz NO Hyper Thread) and 1.5GB RDRAM (can't remember if it was PC600 or PC800 or something like that).

Also never had much trouble out of Ubuntu with Gnome desktop either.

 

As for the wireless, I don't think I should have to use the Windows driver for it. The CD-ROM has a Linux driver on it, but it's source code.

I'll have to look about and see if I can find the info again, someone told me a while back how to do it. Thought they said something about having to install make and a few other programs from the repos (should be an available option during install from DVD).

Shouldn't be too hard either way.






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