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#1 rhubarb

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 03:15 PM

Hi BC

Am leaving PC-cillin. Looking to try either AVG or Avast. And of course a firewall.
Need to know How to uninstall PC and install new AV without putting my system at risk.

A fast reply would be very much appreciated as my subscription with PC-cillin expires today.


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Posted 22 May 2006 - 03:41 PM

Download AVG Free. Uninstall PCcillin. Install AVG free. Download Zone Alarm Free. If you are using Windows firewall, Zone Alarm will disable it while installing. If you have been using the internet for any length of time without any firewall, you should scan with Zone Alarm and at least one antispyware.

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 04:56 PM

You did not state what version you were using so this may not apply.
Uninstalling Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2005

Download AVG or Avast, then download ZA free. Disconnect from the Internet, do your uninstall of PC-cillin, reboot and install your new AV and firewall. Reboot again and do your configurations.

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 09:13 PM

I support buddy on AVG over Avast. From what I've heard and my personal experience, AVG> (by a lot) AVast.
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Posted 22 May 2006 - 10:26 PM

Thanks Buddy 215,Quietman7 and Elendil,

Very good info. I chose AVG and ZA.

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Posted 23 May 2006 - 09:42 PM

I also use AVG. I started 3 years ago when I was disappointed with MacAfee's customer service, or should I say lack of customer service. I have not had a malware on my computer in all that time. I should say any of my computers.
I prefer SyGate Personal Free edition over Zone Alarm but that is just personal taste. You will be very well protected with Zone Alarm.
With all of this concern for security please do not for get your antispyware. That is a very important part of your layered protection.

1. Antivirus
2. Firewall (software)
3. Antispware
4. Windows updates
5. Router with NAT (hardware firewall)
6 Routine online scans

I know you did not ask but I felt it was important to touch on.
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 10:07 AM

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Hi Acklan,

Thanks for your note.

I am happy with my choice for right now.
Both AVG and ZA have kept me busy with security alerts as they adjust to
my programs and each other. PC-cillin just wasn't cutting it anymore. A squared told me about WMF exploiter before Windows did,PC-cillin had nothing

Just one small problem. ZA keeps wanting me to update to a version I already have.
When I say no the download window doesn't want to close. Probably something simple I'm overlooking.

Was going to try Sygate. Seems they merged with Kerio. Is there still a free firewall offered with either of them if I decide to try one? It didn't appear that way.

Take care :flowers:

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 10:26 AM

Sunbelt acquired Kerio on December 1, 2005. Symantec acquired, then cut Sygate Personal Firewall products because of overlap with the Norton Personal Firewall. Effective November 30th, 2005 all Sygate personal firewall products and forum supports were discontinued.

Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5 [last freeware version that was strictly a firewall and not bundled with extra features that hog resources and slow down your system performance].
Kerio Personal Firewall [available in a full and limited free edition].

Sygate Personal Firewall [free for personal use].
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 11:17 AM

As QM pointed out Sygate is still available. There are several very good freeware Friewalls. Just remember, like antivirus use only one firewall program at a time.

Zone Alarm Free for Personal Use
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 11:22 AM

Quietman 7,

You really do have "just the facts."
Now I have more info to check out.
Someone told me last year that PC-cillin was being bought.
Know anything about that?


One more thing. Acklan mentioned a list of goodies I should have to combat
malware. You know I have AVG and ZA.
I also have Spybot,Adaware,Spywareguard,Spywareblaster,A-squared and use free
scans from Panda,Trend-micro and others. Should be enough.

What is a router with NAT(hardware firewall)?

Thanks,
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 11:35 AM

I have not heard anything on PC-cillin being aquired by another vendor but these days it could happen overnight.

A hardware firewall is really a software firewall running on a dedicated piece of hardware or specialized device (router). It can provide a strong degree of protection from most forms of attacks coming from the outside. Hardware firewalls are easy to configure and they can protect every machine on a local network. A hardware firewall typically uses packet filtering to examine the header of a packet to determine its source and destination addresses. This information is compared to a set of predefined or user-created rules that determine whether the packet is allowed (forwarded) or denied (dropped) on particular ports. They tend to treat any kind of traffic traveling from the local network out to the Internet as safe which can be a security risk.

With a software firewall you can specify which applications are allowed to communicate over the Internet from your computer. Programs that are not explicitly allowed to do so are either blocked or else the user is prompted for confirmation before the traffic is allowed to pass. Software firewalls generally offer the best measure of protection against Trojans and worms but they are harder to configure and must share resources with other running processes which can decrease system performance.

NAT = Network Address Translation. See here: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-NAT+and+VOIP

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 11:36 AM

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Acklan,

Your post beat mine to BC.
One thing I've gotten from all I've read:

One AV
One Firewall.

Now, what is a router NAT(hardware firewall)?

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 02:07 PM

I already answered you about NAT. You may have posted too soon after me and missed it.
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 04:56 PM

I prefer SyGate Personal Free edition over Zone Alarm but that is just personal taste. You will be very well protected with Zone Alarm.



Isn't the free version inadequate protection now that Norton/Symantec bought Sygate?
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 05:44 PM

It closes like a steel door, almost daily on intruder and software trying to "phone home". To my knowledge it has not let any software in or out without my consent. I trust it without measure. Unless someone can should me the flaw I will continue to use it.
It is very good for older computers with lower power processors. All my P-IIIs use it and appears not to be dragged down by it.
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