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#1 Moe_P

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 12:03 PM

Just wondering if java is now safe to have on the computer and is it needed for anything.

 


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 12:58 PM

Safe? Java is one of those programs which is continually having new vulnerabilities found in it, so probably not. However if you do find that you really DO need it, ensure that you keep it up to date (and ensure that older versions have been removed - Some older Java versions can stick around even with a newer version on the PC).

 

Do you need it?. that is difficult to say as we have no idea what is on your computer that might need it. Very few things need Java these days, so it might be worth uninstalling it anyway. If you come across something that need it, it's easy enough to reinstall.

 

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 04:01 PM

Safe? No, not really. They always release new versions to fix various exploits hackers find with it, but there is always that window between when hackers start exploiting Java and when you get the fix, in which you will be vulnerable.

 

Do you need it? Maybe. Some programs need Java to work.

 

I'd recommend un-installing Java and see if all the programs you like to use still work. It's a free download, you can always re-install it.



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:38 PM

Safe? No, not really. They always release new versions to fix various exploits hackers find with it, but there is always that window between when hackers start exploiting Java and when you get the fix, in which you will be vulnerable.

@ yu gnomi -

You have just described any Microsoft program, as they all need updating on a regular basis.

 

Keep all your Java, and just keep it updated from HERE on a regular basis.

Current XP SP3 Recommended is Version 7 Update 55. Delete old versions, and Untick the ASK Toolbar Option

» What is Java?
» Remove Older Versions
» Disable Java
» Error Messages
» Troubleshoot Java
» Other Help

 

This is the normal information included on the Java Download Page.



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:46 PM

If you don't need it for any particular piece of software that you use often, IMO you are better off without it. The simplest way to find out if you'll miss it is to un-install it.

 

I un-installed Java on my machine and all of my programs work fine.



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 10:38 PM

If you don't need it for any particular piece of software that you use often, IMO you are better off without it.

This leads to the never ending question.

 

When you download any program, chances are that you will not get a large banner saying "You Now Need Java, So Download It".

 

I left all of the links above for everyone to make their own minds up, and included » Disable Java and » What is Java?.

 

Nobody is ever forced to use Java, and I have never said that you must use it, and even Java states this -

 

NOTE : As of April 8, 2014 Microsoft stopped supporting Windows XP and therefore it is no longer an officially supported platform. Users may still continue to use Java 7 updates on Windows XP at their own risk, but support will only be provided against Microsoft Windows releases Windows Vista or later. See Third Party Vendor-Specific Support Terms on Oracle Software Technical Support Policies (pdf) for details


Edited by noknojon, 27 April 2014 - 10:49 PM.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 06:11 AM

Thanks for the reply's, I removed it a while back and so far have not had any problems.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 09:32 AM

Java Use, Quietman7 - http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/516886/problems-with-browsing-this-page-cant-be-displayed/?p=3231066

 

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 01:08 AM

On all of my computers, Windows XP through 8.1 Update 1, I've lived Java free for over a year. The only times that I need it is when Intel or NVIDIA is checking for updates & they furnish a temporary version for this purpose.

 

Actually the last time a program required it was when I was using Open Office, it was under the Sun brand at the time.

 

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 09:02 AM

FWIW:  I have 2 systems, both dual-boots with XP and Win 7.

 

Java is installed on one...it is not installed on the other system..

 

I have no problems with either.

 

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