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#1 n8stee

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 01:19 PM

Hello everyone, I just joined this forum, and i am seeking help and real people opinions about this computer biuld. I have never built a computer. I am trying to get just the right parts for what im try to do. My buget is around 700 USD and anything under that price would be amazing. 

Here is what i got so far:

·  CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor

·  Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX  AM3+ Motherboard 

·  Memory: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory

·  Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk

·  Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card

·  Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case

·  Power Supply: NZXT HALE82 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply

·  Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Write

 

I will using this system for animations, video editing, music production, and some gaming. Right now i don't really ike the SSD and want something with more storage like a traditional hard drive. This computer also has to be able to run both windows and linux. If you have any suggestions on what i should change please comment on this thread.



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Posted 14 April 2014 - 02:26 PM

I moved up from a system a lot like yours a while ago, a very nice PC for its day.  If you're going to part it out I would suggest keeping the optical drive, case, RAM, and PSU.  I haven't been keeping up with AMD processors or video cards so can't recommend anything there, but if you go Intel you can find (relatively) reasonably priced Haswell i5 quad processors (something like this if you don't plan on overclocking: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116896) and 1150 boards on Newegg.  Throw in a Samsung EVO 250GB SSD and you'll have a smokin' system.


Edited by compnovo, 14 April 2014 - 02:29 PM.

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 07:01 PM

I Googled the PSU it only has 3 stars on New Egg, I would look for a better rated one.  I was for many years a dyed in the wool AMD guy but the new Intels are way better but pricier, if you intend to clock it go for a K series chip.  You can not beat the Mushkin ram.


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 01:32 AM

Hi, the everything on that list is compatible although the CPU is pretty old but it will still handle gaming tasks and video/music editing production. If you wanted to lower the price down, you could go with a lower ram speed like 1333 or 1600 as ram speed does not generally have much effect in gaming or music/video editng task. Also if you went for a 970 chipset Gigabyte motherboard since i am assuming that you will not be using Crossfire or SLI, you could add in a 500GB or 1TB hard drive.

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Posted 15 April 2014 - 09:05 AM

The SSD isn't going to be sufficient to run two operating systems and hold video to edit.  You should be able to get a 2TB 7200 RPM drive for about the same price and it will better suit your needs.



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Posted 15 April 2014 - 11:47 AM

There are two routes to go with your build.  Given that you are doing some gaming and aren't a heavy gamer, you don't need a super high-end card.  This means you can either get a fairly inexpensive AMD build with a very good graphics card, or you can get an Intel i7-based system with a decent card.  Remember, swapping out your motherboard will require a reinstallation of Windows and possibly the purchase of a new copy of Windows if you are currently using an OEM version, to remain compliant with the license.

 

AMD  $656

 

CPU:  AMD FX-8350 Black Edition Vishera 4.0GHz - This is one of the highest-end processors they have.  It is a good gaming CPU, but is a bit slow when compared to some Intel CPU's.  For programs that prefer physical cores instead of HyperThreading, this will offer great performance.  $199

 

Motherboard:  ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 - A simple and basic motherboard is all you really need.  If you plan on using SLI or Crossfire, you may want to get a 990FX-based board.  $99

 

OS:  Windows 8.1 OEM - To remain compliant with the license.  $99

 

GPU:  GIGABYTE GV-N760OC-2GD REV2.0 GeForce GTX 760 2GB - This is an upper-mid range card.  Your budget doesn't allow for a GTX 770.  $259

 

Intel  $754

 

Motherboard:  MSI Z87-G45 Gaming LGA 1150 Intel Z87 - A decent motherboard.  $139

 

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770 Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 - This is getting into the high-end of Intel CPU's and is faster than AMD's FX-8350.  The x86 portion is faster than the FX CPU above and will generally offer higher performance.  Both CPU's are good with gaming, but this one may be better if a program doesn't care if you are using actual cores or HyperThreading.  $309

 

OS:  Windows 8.1 OEM - To remain compliant with the license.  $99

 

GPU:  DIAMOND R9270XD52GXOCV2 Radeon R9 270X 2GB - This offers somewhat greater performance than your Radeon 7870 but will put you over budget by about $50.  The GTX 760 above offers an even greater performance advantage over both the 7870 and the R9 270X but is more expensive.  $204


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 08:10 PM

Could anyone give me a better system for my needs?



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Posted 15 April 2014 - 11:07 PM

This rig comes up to $722, its based on an AMD FX 8320 chip and HD 7950 GPU, 990x mainboard, 8gb ram ,600w psu, 1tb HDD

If  necessary step down either cpu to FX 6300 or gpu to 7870 to bring to $700

The cpu cooler works extremely well with 3 fans hence the inclusion, especially as these FX's start to sing at 4.6ghz and put out heat too

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/



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Posted 16 April 2014 - 07:56 AM

The Radeon 7950 is roughly equal to the R9 270X, but is an older part.  You can easily step down to the FX-8320 but is slightly slightly slower albeit less expensive.  Replacing the components with these alternatives will result is a slightly slower build, but a lower price.


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 01:39 PM

HD7950 = R9 280 not 270x



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Posted 16 April 2014 - 06:08 PM

how about this one:

Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product...
Hard Drive- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product...
DVD Burner- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product...
Motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product...
Power- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product...
Ram- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product...
CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product...
GPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product...



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Posted 16 April 2014 - 07:27 PM

Are you planning to overclock? if so that mother board might not be the best also not too sure about your PSU,

the ram I suggested is cheaper and should be just as good but if you want Gskill then by all means go for it

everything else looks good



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 02:26 AM

The only changes that i would make is the power supply itself as Raidmax isn't exactly the most reliable brand but for something that is similar price range and wattage, may be look at the Corsair CX series.


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 08:33 AM

According to this chart, the HD 7950 and R9 270X are about 3% or so away from each other.  However, they are using the original sub-1000 MHz. model of the 7950, so add about 5% onto it for the the GHz. Edition.  The 280X is a bit more powerful than either.  I like Techpowerup's charts because they measure a large number of cards at multiple resolutions. 

 

To the OP:

Can you keep any of the original equipment from your old PC to lower the cost?  You still need an operating system for the PC.


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 06:44 AM

First, I am going to come at this with the idea that you intend to use this for more than a couple of years.

Second, I am going to assume that work is coming before play (the graphics, video, and music work).

Third, I am going to assume that quality means something.

 

As such, let me point out that you are looking the wrong way. The power supply and CPU are not a good fit. Namely because Intel is quite simply a faster processor for most video and animation work. The video card choice relies solely on the choice of applications. Some acceleration is heavily CUDA based, others OpenCL. You need to determine which you need before choosing the video card.

 

Now the thing to remember. Games are about to change, and with them their requirements are changing. Watch Dogs is a great example of what is to come. The quad core you originally listed is the MINIMUM required processor for that game. This is not a place you want to be.

 

Here is my $.02, take it how you will. Total is $702.93 with either video card. I included the unlocked i5 in case you feel like overclocking at some point - though you will obviously need a different heatsink for that. This machine should last for a very long time, and be well adjusted for upcoming games. Understand that games were not the focus though, and that shows in the video cards. Both cards will do well at 1080P. Understand that you won't be running at 60fps - but high quality is an option at 30fps with both cards. The focus was on trying to keep the CPU power as high as possible for you as well as keeping up quality parts.

 

ASRock Z87M Extreme4 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54670K

PNY XLR8 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model MD8192KD3-1600-X9

Fractal Design Core 1000 FD-CA-CORE-1000-USB3-BL Black Steel MicroATX Mid Tower Computer Case

WD BLACK SERIES WD1003FZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

 

Either

EVGA 01G-P4-2751-KR GeForce GTX 750 1GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card

OR

GIGABYTE GV-R726XOC-1GD Radeon R7 260X 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready Video Card


Laptop: Alienware 14 : Intel i7 4700mq : 8GB ram : Nvidia GTX 765 : 256GB Plextor M3 : 1080P IPS display

Test rig: AMD Phenom X4 955 @ 4.0Ghz : MSI 970A-G46 : 8GB Ram : 128GB Plextor M5s : 2x AMD 5770's (Flashed to 6770) : PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750 : Pioneer BR

Hackintosh : Gigabyte GA-H61m : Intel Celeron @ 3Ghz : 8GB ram : EVGA GTX 550Ti : Patriot Torx 2 64GB : Silverstone Strider ES-50 : OSX Mavericks

 





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