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#1 Ponkadeedle

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 09:08 AM

Hi.Why dosen't Windows shut down immediately instead of going through a prolonged rigmarole?
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Posted 19 May 2006 - 09:45 AM

It goes through a series of shutdown procedures and cleanup processes to avoid OS and registry corruption.
The more it has to do, the longer it takes to complete.
The actual speed windows spends on each task can be tweaked but a safer way to speed up shutdown is through the individual apps that may be causing an issue.
Does yours take longer then, say, 30 sec for example?

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 10:41 AM

Hi.A box appears called RNDLL (or similar) sometimes saying Program not Responding.

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 02:34 PM

The computer when it shuts down has to clean up the Paging File and some of the cache's and also make sure all of the programs are shutting down properly. If Windows is just turned off the hard drive will have clusters that are not where they should be thus fragmenting the drive and leaving these files in such a state that the computer will no longer be able to use them, this takes up hard drive space and eventually slows the computer down.

You should always go thru proper shut down of your computer it is Bill's main rule.

Have a good day.

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 02:42 PM

Hi.A box appears called RNDLL (or similar) sometimes saying Program not Responding.

Perhaps it says RunDLL? At any rate, this is probably a problem with a particular program, although potentially it could be an indicator of an infection.

If you could write down the ENTIRE message, word for word, and post it here. Try to determine what program it is referring to.
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#6 HitSquad

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 02:57 PM

Hi.A box appears called RNDLL (or similar) sometimes saying Program not Responding

rundll\rundll32 sound familiar? :thumbsup:
Have you ran a thorough virus and malware check yet Ponkadeedle?
There are viri out there that hide behind that dll and cause that issue.
If you haven't, you really should do it asap.
There's also legit apps that can cause the same issue (hang) by not exiting gracefully that use that dll.
Use ctrl+alt+del. On the "Applications" tab, "end task" each app one at a time.
If you get the "not responding" message on one or more, it'll give us a starting point.
Post those apps back.

Edited by HitSquad, 19 May 2006 - 02:58 PM.


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Posted 22 May 2006 - 10:11 AM

Hi Thanks for your replies.I got into Task Manager but how do I "end task" each app?What exactly is RUNDLL? It always seems to appear when there's some sort of problem.

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 10:34 AM

rundll - rundll.exe - Process Information

Process File: rundll or rundll.exe
Process Name: Microsoft RunDLL

Description:
rundll.exe is a Windows System process belonging to the Windows 95, 98 and ME range of Microsoft Windows products. This is an important system process and should not be terminated.

Note: rundll.exe could also be a process registered as a backdoor vulnerability which maybe installed for malicious purposes by an attacker allowing access to your computer from remote locations, stealing passwords, Internet banking and personal data. If unaccounted for, this process should be removed immediately.

Note: rundll.exe could also be a process which belongs to the . This program is non-essential process to the running of the program, but should not be terminated unless suspected to be causing problems.

Determining whether this process is a virus or a legitimate Windows process depends on the directory location it executes or runs from in WinTasks.
Author: Microsoft
Part Of: Microsoft Windows 9x Operating System

Do you have a two way firewall or are you just using Windows XP's anemic, incoming only firewall?

In any case I suggest that you run several web based anti-virus scans and replace the XP firewall with one of the freeware two way firewalls that will give you protection against both incoming and outgoing threats.

Software firewalls with freeware versions
(Run only one and disable the ineffective Windows XP firewall)

Zone Alarm:
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/cata...g=en&lid=nav_za

or
http://www.download.com/ZoneAlarm/3000-10435_4-10039884.html

or
Sygate: http://www.sygate.com/
(you can have only one software firewall running. More than one will conflict)


Web based online Antivirus and anti-malware scans: (these can be run regardless of whatever else you are using. You must use Internet Explorer to run these as they require ActiveX to function.)
Kaspersky Anti-Virus Web Scanner
http://www.kaspersky.com/service?chapter=161739400#betatest
and
File scanner and virus scanner
http://www.kaspersky.com/scanforvirus


Panda Activescan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/co...n_principal.htm
http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/activescan.htm

Trend Micro antivirus and malware scan:
http://housecall-beta.trendmicro.com/en/st...orp.asp?id=scan

Etrust Anti-virus web scanner
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx.

Avast Online scan
http://onlinescan.avast.com/

F Secure online scan
http://support.f-secure.com/ols/start.html

Trojan scans –
Sygate Trojanscan
http://scan.sygatetech.com/pretrojanscan.html


Windows Security Trojanscan
http://windowsecurity.com/trojanscan
See instructions for it here:
http://www.windowsecurity.com/trojanscan/trojanscan.asp

Edited by Enthusiast, 22 May 2006 - 10:38 AM.


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Posted 22 May 2006 - 11:23 AM

Hi.Thanks for that.I'm using Norton for virus purposes and Spyware Doctor for malware.How do I find out if Rundll is good or bad?Thanks.

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Posted 23 May 2006 - 11:08 PM

Just in case, this odd idea may come up with something: check your msconfig to see if there are any programs in there starting run.dll, such as bridge.dll. It's a long shot, but others have had this problem. See this.

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 04:59 AM

I got into Task Manager but how do I "end task" each app?

Left click to select. It will become highlighted. Click the "End Task" button.
You may or may not be prompted to confirm, depending on the task.
Take note of the tasks you are ending.
If one comes up "not responding", it "may" point to the culprit.
Legit apps, like Nvidia drivers, use that dll too.

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 09:34 PM

Hi.Why dosen't Windows shut down immediately instead of going through a prolonged rigmarole?
Thanks.


Sometimes it can be a number of things. Hitsquad is right about XP taking time to close processes and cleaning up to avoid registry corruption. But what if that corruption is already there? Perhaps due to bad programs or drivers, a bloated registry - or even file sharing conflicts. Yanno, for months I was plagued with a 1 min 45 sec shutdown on the desktop. and another 45 secs saving settings and closing. It was annoying as all heck, because 1/2 the time it seemed as though windows was grinding to a halt. At any rate, I downloaded a couple of tools online and then went to work. One from PCPitstop analysed the entire System and found a lot of invalid Clsids and typelib entries that needed to come out, which I removed using regedit. CCleaner and RegSupreme are god sends, which further helped out with the cleaning. Next step was looking at the drivers I had. Alot were outdated, and in some instances the wrong ones for the hardware I had. Straightening that all out, Doing SFC /scannow and then compacting the registry did the trick for me.

PS: I hate Norton products the most, I use AVG and Zonealarm for PC security.

Edited by C J., 24 May 2006 - 09:37 PM.





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