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I have some extra parts. Need help choosing the rest!


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#1 ChasFord96

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 03:25 AM

I already have a decent gaming pc. Everything is rated 7.1 or higher on the windows index... Except the HDD which is 5.9. Anyway I want your guys help to build another for a friend of mine. (Aren't I awesome?) Not for him to have of course... but more of use until he no longer needs too. I'll give you a list of what I have, and you decide what I can use them for and what I need to get to fill in the gaps.

 

What I have:

 

2 - Pentium 4 3.0Ghz processors (I could sell these old things or use them, which ever you'd suggest)

2 - 4Gb DDR3 1333Mhz 280pin AMD Entertainment Ram cards (Matching)

1 - 400W psu (No 6-pin, very standard, again can sell but please suggest for how much)

1 - 500Gb HDD (Pretty fast RPM, no need for upgrade here)

2 - Really old cases. But they're cases, and I'm not building eye candy. I'm building an affordable pc.

1 - Monitor, not super excellent resolution, only supports VGA, still looks pretty good. Could sell...

 

All the other parts I have are to old to mention. Like the motherboards and parts of those old computers.

 

What I need:

 

Motherboard (Compatible with above)

PCU (If the ones above aren't sufficient)

PSU (Can run system w/ 6-pin connector AND 4-pin connector)

GPU (Can run a game like DC Universe at highest settings)

 

The rest is up to you to decide. But I hope there isn't anymore. I don't need a DVD drive burner or anything... Just suggest what I should get out of what I listed above and how I should use it with the parts I have, money is an issue. Help!



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#2 DJBPace07

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 06:37 AM

Well, the Windows index is a really poor measurement of performance so I wouldn't put too much thought into that.  As for your other components, you may as well sell the Pentium 4 since it is old, inefficient, and not a high performer these days.  You can keep the RAM, the PSU is a little on the weak side, HDD should be fine, the case is largely irrelevent so long as you can fit what you need to inside, and the monitor should have at least a 1080p resolution, possibly higher for best results.

 

That said you need a motherboard and CPU (Socket LGA775 boards for Pentium 4 CPU's are hard to find since they are quite old),  A CPU, GPU, and OS (I'm assuming you don't have a spare OEM copy or are willing to transfer a full, boxed, retail copy).

 

What exactly is your price range?  We can give you suggestions, but there are major differences between an AMD A10 and an i7 4770 both in terms of performance and price though both would work.


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#3 ChasFord96

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 12:56 PM

'Bout 200 bucks for the other parts maximum. I have a legitimate copy of windows XP if that's okay. It's a pretty good OS. It just has to be good enough to max out DC Universe online, so nothing fantastic.

 

On a separate note, my other pc I already have built, the windows index thing, is there better ways to rate my computers performance and appraise what it's worth? 



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Posted 07 April 2014 - 01:19 PM

On a separate note, my other pc I already have built, the windows index thing, is there better ways to rate my computers performance and appraise what it's worth? 

A lot of us on the now defunct PCWorld forums use were using novabench...

http://novabench.com/


Edited by compnovo, 07 April 2014 - 01:20 PM.

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 10:53 PM

Your best bet at this price point is an APU system w/out discrete GPU, later on you can add one

 

ASRock FM2A55M-HD+ FM2+ / FM2 AMD A55 (Hudson D2) HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard--$47

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157473

 

GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600-- $64

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144699

 

AMD A8-5600K Trinity 3.6GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) Socket FM2  Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 7560D--$100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113281

 

Total $ 210

 

Intel System:

 

BIOSTAR Hi-Fi H81S2 LGA 1150 --$56

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138394

 

Intel Pentium G3420 Haswell 3.2GHz LGA 1150 54W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646G3420 --$75

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116949

 

HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866-- $70

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104422

 

Total $201


Edited by diggi, 08 April 2014 - 12:30 AM.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:30 AM

Theoretically, you can use XP, but it is leaving support entirely on 4/8/2014 which means it will not receive any more security, performance, or usability updates.  For PC's not connected to the internet, this is not a major issue, but DC Universe requires an online connection so you should be using a modern and supported OS.  You don't need a super high-end CPU or GPU to run the game.  Keep in mind that the AMD APU's have GPU's built-in and they are generally better than Intel's on-built-in graphics.  The A8 CPU listed above should be good enough.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 12:38 PM

I already have the ddr3 8gb 280pin ram so is there a motherboard compatible with that instead of 240 pin? That way I'll save some money. If I really should get 240pin then I guess I'll sell 'em for like 60 bucks and trade 'em out for 240pin.... If I did that I'd get the amd parts above the intel ones for gaming...


Edited by ChasFord96, 08 April 2014 - 12:41 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 12:56 PM

Are you sure its 280 pin? if it is no dice, but if its 240 pin then :guitar: play on



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 04:50 PM

nvm its 240 pin. does 280 pim even exist??? well thx guys youve been a real help. At least now I know who to go to.

 

Could we tone it down a bit on the cpu?? I'm pretty sure it does't have to be that good. To even max cryss 3 Im pretty sure it doesnt have to be THAT good.


Edited by ChasFord96, 08 April 2014 - 04:51 PM.


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 09:36 AM

Crysis does need a decent GPU, preferably one that is dedicated and not on the same die as the CPU.  MMO's, by their nature, are designed to be scalable. so a high-end GPU is just simply something nice to have.  With AMD APU's, the first prefix of the APU, the A4, A8, A10, etc. is a kind of marker to tell you where it sits.  An A8 is meant for more mid-range builds that need a good blend of graphics and x86 power, the A10's are even better.  Those numbers also give an indication as to the graphics on the chip.  You may also notice the words "Trinity" or "Richland", these are the series with Richland being newer.  You may also see "Kaveri" or "Kabini", but those are even newer and seem to be at the A10 level.  An A10 APU would probably get Crysis 3 at 30 fps or better without an add-in card.

 

In your case, the only real decrease in APU, in terms of cost, would be an A6 dual core, which I wouldn't recommend due to reduced graphics and x86 power.  If you can at all afford the 5600K APU above, you really should go for it.  In fact, if you could afford a $10 more Richland-based APU, the AMD A8-6600K, you should try to.


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