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#1 fadi-sheikh

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:04 PM

As the topic stated,

I am planning on upgrading a computer desktop, three things

1- Memory .
only 1 GB of memory installed and I want to go for 4 GB is that good choice or there will be side affects ?

2- Graphic card
Is good idea to upgrade the graphic card, even thought I feel I am ok with built-in card, but I think it would be better to have
higher graphic card ??

 

3- optional / I am thinking of adding this thing to my case ( TPM module connector )? is it good idea ot waste of money ?
my motherboard documentation here !!!

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 09:45 PM

There are a couple of questions that need answering.

 

What Windows are You running? Is it a 32Bit or 64Bit windows?

A 32Bit windows will only use approximately 3Gb of memory even if there is more installed.

 

What do You expect the TPM module to do for You? For most users it is never used.

 

If the Current video card is doing the job, why spend money for a upgrade?

 

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 01:46 AM

There are a couple of questions that need answering.

 

What Windows are You running? Is it a 32Bit or 64Bit windows?

A 32Bit windows will only use approximately 3Gb of memory even if there is more installed.

 

What do You expect the TPM module to do for You? For most users it is never used.

 

If the Current video card is doing the job, why spend money for a upgrade?

 

Good Luck

Roger

 

I am running win XP 32bit. that's why I want to know if it's good idea to get 4GB and update to win 7 64bit ??

I am little bit worried if I will face any problem when I run any software which demand higher graphic card



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 02:09 AM

G'day mate, if you plan to upgrade to Windows 7 64bit then 4GB of ram should be ideal for optimal use and in terms of the graphics card, you will most likely need one if you do a fair amount of gaming apart from that, the onboard graphics should be sufficient. 


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Posted 24 March 2014 - 02:50 AM

G'day mate, if you plan to upgrade to Windows 7 64bit then 4GB of ram should be ideal for optimal use and in terms of the graphics card, you will most likely need one if you do a fair amount of gaming apart from that, the onboard graphics should be sufficient. 

 

I guess 64 bit would be better and more scure OS

 

I don't think I am gonna run video games but software such as, VMware, VS. HD videos or films ?



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 03:31 AM

VMware and HD contents do not require a dedicated graphics card to run smoothly, it is mostly to do with the CPU itself rather then graphics card, so you should be fine :)


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Posted 24 March 2014 - 09:53 AM

Hi, Thank You for answering. I see Killer has answered most of Your questions.

 

Since You mention changing Windows, Then yes 64Bit.

Also from the Motherboard Maker You can go to 8Gb.

 

Understand that You will need to do a Clean install of Windows 7. This means that all programs will need to be re-installed. So back up Your data just in case. There is a option to leave it on the drive, However Any important Data should always be backed up.

 

As for the graphic card I would wait and see if you need it later on.

 

Thank You for the help Killer.

 

Good Luck with the Upgrade

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 05:54 PM

thanks guys, according to my CPU. Is it capable of running 64 bit !!



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Posted 25 March 2014 - 12:00 AM

Which CPU do you currently have installed? Generally all CPUs that are LGA775 support 64bit.


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Posted 25 March 2014 - 08:11 AM

Keep in mind that the motherboard listed, G31TM-P21, lists 8GB as the maximum amount of memory allowed.  But, there are only two RAM slots and the motherboard will take DDR2-667/800 and not DDR3.  A single 4GB stick of DDR2-800 is about $100.  It is usually a good idea to use as much RAM as you can with VMWare.  That motherboard also takes LGA775 Core 2 CPU's.


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Posted 25 March 2014 - 05:45 PM

Which CPU do you currently have installed? Generally all CPUs that are LGA775 support 64bit.

 

I guess I have Core 2 Quad



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Posted 25 March 2014 - 05:46 PM

Keep in mind that the motherboard listed, G31TM-P21, lists 8GB as the maximum amount of memory allowed.  But, there are only two RAM slots and the motherboard will take DDR2-667/800 and not DDR3.  A single 4GB stick of DDR2-800 is about $100.  It is usually a good idea to use as much RAM as you can with VMWare.  That motherboard also takes LGA775 Core 2 CPU's.

 

I am thinking of getting 2 pieces of 2GB ? it's around 50-60 bucks . Do you think used ones are bad ?



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Posted 26 March 2014 - 07:20 AM

Exactly which units of RAM will you be getting?  That motherboard will only take DDR2-667 or DDR2-800 if your motherboard is G31TM-P21.  VMWare or virtual PC's should have as much RAM as you can get.  4GB of DDR2-800 will be about $80 or so, 8GB will be about twice that.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 03:48 PM

Exactly which units of RAM will you be getting?  That motherboard will only take DDR2-667 or DDR2-800 if your motherboard is G31TM-P21.  VMWare or virtual PC's should have as much RAM as you can get.  4GB of DDR2-800 will be about $80 or so, 8GB will be about twice that.

 

I won't always run VMWare probably few times a month or less, what is your opinion about old memory !



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 01:42 PM

The reason I suggested as much RAM as possible for VMWare is that the RAM has to support both the host and virtualized OS and applications, but if you only run it occasionally, having large amounts of RAM may not be necessary.

 

As for old memory, it shouldn't be a problem, so long as it works without errors and matches the specifications your motherboard requires.


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