in the wee hours of the morning doing a search for a friend who has a nasty little boot record trojan/virus that symantec/norton couldn't reply back to her last Dec. when a scan revealed this little #&@$% program, when my wandering eyes fell upon the words "bleeping computer" website with a topic about manual removal of this troll trojan and I said to myself "Self, this is the website for us" and without further ado, I joined right up even though I do have a tendancy to be a lurker I am a full time grandma raising 2 granddaughters - 17 and 11(the 11 year old has been smarter than I am since she was about 3!) my husband and I use to ride Harleys until the 11 year old while she was still an infant needed aa stable and secure home. We haven't looked back since! Summer Rayne's oldest sister came to live with us last March when she needed the same kind of environment after being kicked out of the house where she had lived with her maternal grandparents since birth. because she could not control her temper and was tearing up things and hitting walls and threatening suicide. Kiley was diagnosed with Bipolar 2 disorder. last Sept. She is doing better with the medication and counseling. Enough about me! i feel a nap coming on after my cyberspace stumble!