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#1 binavik

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 03:59 PM

I want to get a video card for my pc to get The Last Remnant to play. My current specs are:

 

500 Watt PSU

 

Micro ATX AMD motherboard

 

320 GB 7200 RPM hard drive

 

4 GB ram (I'm planning on getting 4 more GB)

 

Micro ATX tower

 

AMD A8 5500 APU

 

I have no knowledge of video cards so try and keep it as noob friendly as possible. What I'm looking for is something around $150, has an HDMI port and will fit into my case. 

 

I was thinking about this card from EVGA http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487027. Any thoughts?



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 04:45 PM

This EVGA is as cuted you see and not good.Take GTX 650 Ti or R7 260X:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121686

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121801

Because you have AMD CPU is better R7 260X.


Edited by Alex&Vanko, 11 March 2014 - 04:45 PM.


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Posted 11 March 2014 - 06:05 PM

yes, your amd a8 cpu has the apu onboard video, check that one out.

 

it has hd7650 built into it. you can crossfire it with an hd6670 1gb gddr5. if running discreet config ....you can get the hd 7790. the r7 260x is current generation of the hd7790, which is around the same budget

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=r7+260x&N=-1&isNodeId=1


Edited by synergy513, 11 March 2014 - 06:10 PM.

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 06:11 PM

AMD/APU`s are for people who don`t play serious games.Next time buy Intel.


Edited by Alex&Vanko, 11 March 2014 - 06:13 PM.


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Posted 11 March 2014 - 08:03 PM

Next time buy Intel.

Intel's IGP performs even poorer then the APU, so buying a Intel CPU won't increase the performance but a decrease.

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 08:06 PM

AMD/APU`s are for people who don`t play serious games.Next time buy Intel.

 

This build wasn't really meant for me or to play any games on. My family was running a computer from 06 that my dad got from walmart for $200 so anything was an upgrade at the time. This build was mainly for writing papers or playing League of Legends and it's fine for that. I knew that I wouldn't be able to play any serious games when putting this together, at the time I didn't really care. Now I just want to play The Last Remnant which also isn't a serious game, my APU could run it. The 2 biggest reasons I want a graphics card now are to play that game without any hiccups I get from the APU and I read somewhere that a dedicated graphics card would put less strain on my APU. 

 

 

 

yes, your amd a8 cpu has the apu onboard video, check that one out.

 

it has hd7650 built into it. you can crossfire it with an hd6670 1gb gddr5. if running discreet config ....you can get the hd 7790. the r7 260x is current generation of the hd7790, which is around the same budget

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=r7+260x&N=-1&isNodeId=1

 

3 questions. 1; what the hell is crossfire? 2; is it easy to set up? 3; will there be a noticeable performance difference than just getting one of the cards that Alex&Vanco told me to get?

 

Thanks for the help guys.



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 09:09 PM

oh, ok.

 

 i would go for the 6670 or r7 240 then. you can crossfire it with the apu for decent performance and it doesn't require much power and will give you mutiple options for display configuration.  i have an x58 motherboard that doesn't sport onboard graphics because my cpu doesn't have it and believe me when i state that there were times when i really needed it.  my xp machine has the onboard and i have had to resort to using it several times when switching out hardware., it is real handy to have in a pinch.

 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=r7+240&N=-1&isNodeId=1

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=6670+1gb+gddr5&N=-1&isNodeId=1

 

or, the r7 250 should be compatible with your apu also and offer that extra punch...

 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=r7+250&N=-1&isNodeId=1

 

 

or your original aim for the gtx 750 should be fine also, but will not be compatible with your apu for crossfire. the 750 ti is as sweet as it gets for the money, it is all new.

 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=750ti&N=-1&isNodeId=1


Edited by synergy513, 11 March 2014 - 09:17 PM.

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 09:11 PM

 

Next time buy Intel.

Intel's IGP performs even poorer then the APU, so buying a Intel CPU won't increase the performance but a decrease.

 

No need this IGP.Only CPU power is needed to combine with appropriate external videocard.



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 09:22 PM

3 questions. 1; what the hell is crossfire? 2; is it easy to set up? 3; will there be a noticeable performance difference than just getting one of the cards that Alex&Vanco told me to get?

Real crossfire is between two external Videocards.This one is gloss over or slur over your eyes.



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 09:28 PM

oh, ok.

 

 i would go for the 6670 or r7 240 then. you can crossfire it with the apu for decent performance and it doesn't require much power and will give you mutiple options for display configuration.  i have an x58 motherboard that doesn't sport onboard graphics because my cpu doesn't have it and believe me when i state that there were times when i really needed it.  my xp machine has the onboard and i have had to resort to using it several times when switching out hardware., it is real handy to have in a pinch.

 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=r7+240&N=-1&isNodeId=1

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=6670+1gb+gddr5&N=-1&isNodeId=1

 

or, the r7 250 should be compatible with your apu also and offer that extra punch...

 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=r7+250&N=-1&isNodeId=1

 

 

or your original aim for the gtx 750 should be fine also, but will not be compatible with your apu for crossfire. the 750 ti is as sweet as it gets for the money, it is all new.

 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=750ti&N=-1&isNodeId=1

Ok so how about either this one from sapphire or this one from MSI.

 

I'm leaning more towards the MSI one because even if i can't get crossfire set up it seems like it would do good by itself. By the way, how do I set up crossfire? Also, if I use the HDMI output on the cards, will I only get video or will I get audio too?



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 09:31 PM

crossfire is combining two radeon gpu for stronger performance. it ususally means having two cards in the slot with a bridge, but the amd apu series does it with 1 compatible card and it is usually easy for users that really want it, but if a user doesn't know what it is, then it might be difficult.

 

the 260x is a little stronger than the 7770


Edited by synergy513, 11 March 2014 - 09:40 PM.

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 09:46 PM

The whole idea of Crossfire and SLI is videocards to be the same and to double their force.In your case is not.Also your CPU is quad-core but is far away behind one Core i5.One R7 260X or 7790 may be the limit of it`s potential.



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 09:49 PM

I'll just get the MSI card from my last post. If I can get crossfire to work awesome, if not then whatever. I won't be ordering it before spring break anyway so I have plenty of time to change my mind.



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 10:02 PM

To get or not this crossfire is the same.You will not feel the difference playing games.Just your APU will be working or not.



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 10:21 PM

Also APU use RAM Memory which is DDR3.So you will have less RAM memory available.External Videocard has own memory which is DDR5 and faster.With one word - mingle-mangle.






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