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My new rig too much for my needs?


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#1 Tybudd

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 04:04 AM

I'm looking to build a new rig, I mainly only play Blizzard titles but I want to be able to play at max settings and still get upwards of 100fps, is anything you see here overkill for what I'm looking to do.

of course I want it slightly future proof as well

 

 

 
CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Microcenter) 
CPU Cooler:  Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($73.98 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard:  MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($157.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage:  Transcend SSD340 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card:  Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($509.99 @ Newegg) 
Case:  Antec 1100 Illusion ATX Full Tower Case  ($119.98 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan:  Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($25.98 @ OutletPC) 
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Case Fan:  Noctua NF-A15 PWM 140mm  Fan  ($19.79 @ Amazon) 
Optical Drive:  LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor:  Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($276.98 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1945.58
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Posted 07 March 2014 - 06:06 AM

Hi, do you have a budget for your build and 750W is an overkill for just a single graphics card unless you plan to add a 2nd GTX780 in the future.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 02:01 PM

Hi, do you have a budget for your build and 750W is an overkill for just a single graphics card unless you plan to add a 2nd GTX780 in the future.

 

Even getting a second would result in lower performance based on the motherboard, so yea the power supply is a little over kill.

 

Personally I feel like you are overspending on the RAM since the motherboard base can only accept 1600MHz without overclocking.

 

I would spend $10 more and get the Samsung SSD here I have just heard better things from Samsung users than Transcend.

 

 

Also just so you are aware with the 144Hz monitor you are going to want to try and get as close as possible to 32, 48, 72, or 144 fps, anything other than that and it will look very similar (if not the same) as a regular 60Hz monitor. I believe that Nvidia has settings where you can lock in or cap frame rates.

 

You dont need hundreds, just the right number is all.



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 06:34 PM

Wow didn't realize that my MoBo Capped at 1600MHz, could you recommend another in the same price range with this chipset?

 

As far as budget I'm trying to stay maxed 2000.

 

 

Now with the FPS are those numbers you posted caps on being able to see a differential, whats the logic behind that?



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 06:36 PM

yeah the PSU was in case I needed a 2nd GPU later, or you think my system will be obsolete by the time I would need more graphics power?



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 06:54 PM

Wow didn't realize that my MoBo Capped at 1600MHz, could you recommend another in the same price range with this chipset?

 

As far as budget I'm trying to stay maxed 2000.

 

 

Now with the FPS are those numbers you posted caps on being able to see a differential, whats the logic behind that?

 

Its going to be hard (very hard) to find a motherboard that naturally does anything higher than 1600, you can overclock to the 1833 or more, just wanted to make you aware.

 

The fps I put out there is based on the mesh rate with the 144Hz, looking at televisions the reason that 120Hz looks better is because most things are output in 24fps, which meshes nicely with 120 (120/5 = 24) what happens with 60Hz is every 3rd frame or so from a 24Hz feed is lost because it doesnt mesh with the refresh. So 144/2 = 72; 144/3 = 48; 144/4 = 32. I hope that makes sense to you.

 

yeah the PSU was in case I needed a 2nd GPU later, or you think my system will be obsolete by the time I would need more graphics power?

 

As I mentioned the mobo will actually stay almost exactly the same performance (possibly worse). This is based on this spec (PCI Express 3.0 x16 - 3 (support x16, x8/x8, x8/x4/x4 modes))



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 07:35 PM

Do you know of any boards that run X16 across atleast 2 slot, tha't isn't $300+?



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 08:36 PM

There's the Asus Z87-WS which is just less than $300.  The CPU itself is limited to 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes so the way the expensive boards get around it is with an add on controller chip.  There's an explanation in this review which is worth a read. The other alternative is a Ivy Bridge E LGA 2011 setup, but it's a much more expensive platform.

 

The general opinion I've seen though is that having two cards in PCIe 3.0 16x compared to two cards at 8x makes little difference in reality, a couple of percent at most.  I can't find the test right now, but it has been tested and if I remember rightly the conclusion was that it makes no real difference.  If I find it again, I'll post a link..

 

EDIT Here's one I've read before anyway.  The difference between PCIe 3.0 x8 and PCIe 3.0 x16 appears to be hardly worth worrying about at all.  I think the uber expensive motherboards are only worth the extra if you are planning on 3 or 4 way setups..  PCIe 3.0 8x has the same theoretical bandwidth as PCIe 2.0 16x.


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Posted 08 March 2014 - 09:50 AM

 

The difference between PCIe 3.0 x8 and PCIe 3.0 x16 appears to be hardly worth worrying about at all.  I think the uber expensive motherboards are only worth the extra if you are planning on 3 or 4 way setups..  PCIe 3.0 8x has the same theoretical bandwidth as PCIe 2.0 16x.

Absolutely agree with you there as the performance in terms of FPS is negligible and the current generation of graphics card have not fully used up the PCI-E 3.0 bandwidth yet.


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