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#1 Blueflag20

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 03:37 PM

Hey guys, I am upgrading my PC, and I play a game called Rust, and my frames are anywhere between 18-30 depends for some reason. 

I need help deciding, if I should upgrade my graphics card, or upgrade my processor to an I5.  I don;t know if my graphics card bottlenecks at a certain point.  

 

Please let me know!!!  or maybe there are some setting I have messed up on my computer not sure! 

 

Here are my specs 

Amd Radeon HD 7750 Gfxcard

Asus p8H61 Le/CSM mobo

8 gigs of DDR3

Intel I3 3220 Processor 



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Posted 08 February 2014 - 05:46 PM

Hi, you would most likely see a FPS increase with a graphics card upgrade as games like Rust are GPU dependent then the CPU. Upgrading the CPU will be a little bit more difficult since there isn't many 3rd gen i processor around due to the latest 4th gen processors.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 03:49 AM

The 7750 isn't exactly slow, and Rust has some very modest requirements. The best place to start, would be to run some tests and verify the system health and then check the load while gaming.

 

To start, my usual recommendation is to get HW Monitor, CPU-Z, Furmark and Prime 95. Install and start both HW Monitor, and CPU-Z, keep both where you can see them, and still work. Then install both Prime 95 and Furmark. Start Prime95 first, use "small" or "in place" FFT's. Then start Furmark at an 800x600 window. Watch HW Monitor for excessive temperatures (over 70 C per core CPU, or 90C on the video card) and watch CPU-Z for throttling (slower than the "base" speed). If all goes well, move on to step two.

 

At this stage, you can safely remove the above software if desired.

 

Then download MSI Afterburner. Use this to more closely watch your GPU temps, and GPU load. Leave it running, hop into your game, and when it starts to lag, alt+tab out to Afterburner. See what your GPU load looks like.

 

Please report back with the results.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 01:07 PM

Thank you I did do this, but with MSI afterburner, my GPU temp gets to a max of about 58-60, and and I just decided to get a new video card XFX AMD Radeon R9 270 Boost 2GB GDDR5 2DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort  which I hope will fix my FPS issue.  Since temps are seeming to be normal, I figured Rust is just GPU demandant, and that my card needs an upgrade.  Let me know if you have any other ideas.   My HD 7750 runs fine, on all other games, its just Rust where I get the FPS issue.  It's in alpha though so that could be the issue 



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 03:08 PM

When you say it runs fine on other games, is it games like BF4 and are you running Rust at the lowest graphics setting?


Edited by killerx525, 09 February 2014 - 03:08 PM.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 09 February 2014 - 04:04 PM

Rust I run on the fastest setting, and other games I mean like League of legends, and CS:GO, but I don't want to try BF4 till I get this card in! 



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 04:05 PM

Btw I have to play other games at low/ medium settings.  League at max settings I get around 30-60 frames.  



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:08 PM

It sounds like a GPU bottleneck here and what resolution do you game at?

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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