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#1 aliboy66

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 04:29 PM

Hi got a dell laptop it came with windows 8 and Mcfee internet security free trial for a mouth it's running
Out in a week,so been looking into windows defender not sure it's good enough so what do u recommend
Should I pay or go for a free one?.Are all in one better there's so many to pick from or is windows defender
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Posted 04 February 2014 - 04:39 PM

I would say that AVG Antivirus (free) is a pretty good choice. There are many other options however. I will encourage you to find out what is available to you.

I don't always use Internet Explorer, but when I do, it's to download a different browser.

 


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Posted 04 February 2014 - 08:03 PM

I agree with HashX Avg is good but you could also try  Avira http://www.avira.com/en/index

 

If you are considering buying a Internet security suite you may consider

Kaspersky PURE 3.0

  http://www.buykaspersky.com.au/kaspersky-pure?domain=kaspersky.com 

 

These are my personal choices I have been running Kaspersky PURE for 3 plus years now and think its great.

 

I also think that if you run free software and like it you should buy it if you can afford it to show your support for the people who make the stuff. Especially things like Antivirus. Try AVG if you like it buy it.

Remember you get what you pay for.

 

For a list of free antivirus software please read this.

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/366982/freeware-replacements-for-common-commercial-apps/


Edited by NickAu1, 04 February 2014 - 08:15 PM.


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Posted 04 February 2014 - 09:15 PM

Why not use Windows Defender on Windows 8 which integrates a more robust version of Windows Defender (and uses that name) for its anti-virus and anti-malware protection? Although it uses the same name, it is not the same as Defender in previous operating systems. Windows 8 Defender provides the same level of protection against malware as Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) and uses the same virus definition updates.

* Windows Defender on Windows 8 - Introduction and FAQs
* Windows 8: new and improved security features
* Windows 8 Security: Defender Antivirus
* Windows Defender and Windows SmartScreen

Since Windows 8 Defender includes anti-virus protection, it may be disabled by the installation of a third-party anti-virus program. If a trial anti-virus came preinstalled on your computer, it most likely turned Windows 8 Defender off (disabled) to avoid conflicts. Windows 8 Defender will remain disabled until the third party anti-virus has been completely uninstalled and then Windows 8 Defender needs to be activated if you choose to use it.If you want to use another anti-virus it is recommended to disable Windows 8 Defender before installing a different antivirus software.
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Posted 05 February 2014 - 12:37 AM

@ quiteman7

 

I read your post with great interest, and with only 2 weeks to go on my kasper pure subscription I decided to give Windows 8 Defender a try. If I get infected I will find your fone number and I will fone you at 2 am so you can help me clean my pc.  I am only joking.

 

But I did read your post and had a think about how I use my pc.

I do not bank online.

I use my pc to mainly do email( I never ever open ANY attachments from ANYBODY even my mother, I Surf forums like this, Youtube, Some  Facebook, Paltalk Chat read the news that kinda thing.

I do not use torrents or other p2p or go to those warez sites.

I do not go to porn sites.

 

So I figure I am not doing anything risky online so maybe thats why I have never had any problems.

I am giving this a try there are no important files on this pc and its fully backed up to usb drive( only plugged in for backup then unplugged) so if the worst happens a quick cleanup and restore . Might save a few $$$$

 

God next thing you know I will be running IE 11


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 02:49 AM

There are reviews o the internet which compare several AV suites. None of them is flawless. Windows Defender however, is worse than some others so I would not recommend using it when surfing a lot on unknown sites.

 

I believe Kaspersky, Bitdefender and Panda are the best you can get. They are not free however.



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 07:03 AM

There are several labs which test the effectiveness of major anti-virus programs to include AV-Comparatives.org, Virus Bulletin Comparative Tests, AV-Test.org, NSS Labs Consumer Anti-Malware Products Group Test Report, etc.

These kinds of comparative testing results will vary depending on a variety of factors to include but not limited to who conducted the testing, what they were testing for (type of threats, attack vectors, exploits), what versions of anti-virus software was tested, what type of scanning engine was used, and the ability to clean or repair. There are no universally predefined set of standards or criteria for testing which means each test will yield different results. As such, you need to look for detailed information about how the tests were conducted, the procedures used, and data results. Read Anti-virus Testing Websites: An overview of testing sites
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Posted 05 February 2014 - 02:27 PM

Hi thanks for your help I  will take it all in. I want something that is simple to use and understand windows defender is like MSE but better yeah?



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 04:10 PM

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:14 AM

I'm a little wary to recommend MSE/Windows Defender protection based on AV-Test.org's recent results, versus using pretty much any free AV such as Avast or AVG.

 

I know there is not standard for these testing benchmarks. But even in respect to their closed test, it looks pretty bad.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:31 AM

I and most of our staff is not weary to recommend MSE for the reasons I indicated in Post #7.
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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:36 AM

I and most of our staff is not weary to recommend MSE for the reasons I indicated in Post #7.

Well Post #7 mentions the "Anti-virus Testing Websites: An overview of testing sites" document, which itself says AV-Comparatives and AV-Test can be trusted. And they are the ones proving out that MSE/WD is batting below average compared to over AVs.



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:44 AM

Yes it does and I specifically include that link because it gives a good overview. However, I never said AV-Comparatives and AV-Test could not be trusted....just noted comparative testing results will vary depending on a variety of factors. If a product does not do well in a particular test...that does not make it a bad product.
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Posted 06 February 2014 - 11:30 AM

Yes it does and I specifically include that link because it gives a good overview. However, I never said AV-Comparatives and AV-Test could not be trusted....just noted comparative testing results will vary depending on a variety of factors. If a product does not do well in a particular test...that does not make it a bad product.

 

Indeed. I wouldn't necessarily call MSE a "bad product." It's certainly better than nothing. But I'm concerned that many people recommend it simply as a default answer to "whats AV should I use?" without considering how well they've kept up development on the product. If there are other free alternatives that do a better job, I feel obligated to jump in and make sure people are aware of that.

 

You can have a disclaimer that these tests have a variety of factors and they're not standardized. But when they all seem to conclude that a particular product's protection is below average, that seems like compelling evidence to me, short of a conspiracy theory that they're all our to discredit MSE...



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 12:46 PM

I  share the opinion of WhiteZero. That is why I advised for the "others" and not for MSE. The reviews/tests all put MSE in the lower regions of the free versions of all AV suites. In fact I was once an MSE user until I found out that this application left some to be desired. Scanning my system with the others made me sceptical about the performance of MSE. 

I certainly won't disqualify MSE. It has however, still a long way to go to reach the same quality as the "others".  I trust all the tests where MSE didn't perform that well.

I am sure MS does a good job to offer protection but it still has to be developed a bit more.

 

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