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#1 LOVEMYPC

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:30 PM

HI,I just got a notification about a JAVA update and in their download they want me to run a scan before and in that scan they suggest i buy their upgrade and

from some of the scans i have run in the past they seem to find thousands of problems do i need to run this scan at all,thanks



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 12:57 AM

No, you don't need to run that scan.

A better question might be, do you even need Java installed?  Unless you have a program installed that requires Java or you frequent a particular web site that requires Java, you would be better off to un-install Java and be rid of it.  Java will be required more often in a business environement than in a personal or home environement.

Java and JavaScript are not the same, your browser(s) handle JavaScript.

I haven't had any problems on this computer without Java being installed.



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 02:26 AM

It's a good thing that you posted your concern; as mentioned do not follow those recommendations

You probably have done Java updates before so you are familiar what a Java update procedure looks like

Make sure to not let other programs install when you have to do your normal Java update

 

I recommend you make sure your computer is clean and secure as a result of what you saw

Run your computer maintenance and security programs

 

There have been reports that official multiple Java updates are due any time now and some companies are probably trying to take advantage of that and scare people into getting their Java updates going

 

Finally if you aren't sure about any future Java updates warnings, click out of it and go to the official Java website http://www.java.com/en/ and install from their



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 11:18 AM


Using Java is an unnecessary security risk...especially using older versions which have vulnerabilities that malicious sites can use to exploit and infect your system.Although, Java is commonly used in business environments and many VPN providers still use it, the average user does not need to install Java software.
* Why You don't need Java
* W3Techs usage statistics and market share data of Java on the web
* Java: should you remove it?

I recommend just uninstalling Java if you don't use it.
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Posted 15 January 2014 - 02:27 PM

Sounds more like you have a malware infection that looks like a Java update.  There is no scan, that I am aware of, that you will see when the Java needs to be updated.



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 02:43 PM

Major software vendors like Adobe, Java and others have been bundling third-party software from McAfee and Norton in their download packages which allows users to perform a system checkup of their computers.The McAfee Security Scan Plus tool may be installed unless you uncheck the include McAfee installation box when updating Java.
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Posted 15 January 2014 - 02:50 PM

I also agree, if you don't need Java, uninstall it 



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 06:59 PM


If you're going to use Java, many security researchers and computer security organizations caution users to limit their usage and to disable Java Plug-ins or add-ons in your browsers.
* How to disable Java Plug-ins or add-ons in common web browsers .
* How to turn off Java on your browser
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Posted 15 January 2014 - 07:44 PM

Sounds more like you have a malware infection that looks like a Java update.  There is no scan, that I am aware of, that you will see when the Java needs to be updated.

I have Java Updater installed, so this tells me when any update is released. I "scan" with this -

There was a new legal version just released (about 7 Update51 I think).

 

As always, if you use it, UNTICK the ASK option as you go to download it, or it can change your home page.

 

Also do not forget to install Windows Updates just released -



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:02 PM

I don't have Java and I don't need it on one of my computers; but I do have Java on my other computer because of Pogo games. I keep both computers well maintained and protected and that's what I advise people to do. Fortunately I haven't had any issues over the years with Java problems and/or exploits or whatever the proper terminology is and neither have my friends whom I help so I wonder if some of the Java expoits can be a result of poor maintenance but especially poor security protections.

 

In other words if someone keeps their computer well maintained and properly protection shouldn't they be protected against Java exploits as a rule? I know the world isn't perfect so there always the possibility of a Java exploit but from what I read sometimes, it appears Java exploiits are a major problem.

 

I see many posts in which someone says they don't need/use Java and as I said I don't either on one of my computers. But for those who do what I see in common on many of them is tthe games they play on-line as well as some gambling sites. A few of my friends don't do either but at work there are some sites they have to visit for business purposes and Java is required. I've never seen it but I am taking their word for it until I know better.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is that for those who do need Java, proper maintenance and protection is even more important?

Come to think of it I bet there are many computer users who might not even know they don't need Java


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:22 PM

There was a new legal version just released (about 7 Update51 I think).

Java 7 Update 51 Release Notes updated 01/14/14
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Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:11 PM

Well i removed JAVA from my PC and no problems in running my PC.

Just for the info. i ran their scan and they only found 3373 problems with my PC,but the one thing might make people buy into their scam was they said there was a 1.3GB of disk being

used just useless files and such knowing how smart some people are at manipulating computers that the numbers they come up with are just random numbers to make you think

that your PC is toast and NO i did not buy into their scam just ran scan for my reference,thanks



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 07:32 AM

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 08:18 AM

Thanks for the feedback

I wish more of my friends who don't need Java would think like that



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 04:22 PM

"There is no 'patch' for stupidity...some folks just have to learn the hard way".
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