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#1 Talith

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 04:00 AM

I've had this issue for months now and it's starting to happen more and more as time goes on. The issue I'm having is sometimes when trying to start an application the program will simply do nothing on screen. However, the process will appear in task manager with very low memory usage (under 100k). If I click the application again it will start normally, but now there are two processes. The normal memory usage of the program and the low one (100k). The false start will not close unless I manually stop the process. This issue doesn't cause that many issues but it can hold some things up. Such as with chrome, if wow_helper fails to start, chrome will not work until and I manually shut down the failed wow_helper. 

 

I'm really interested to find out what makes this happen. It's not a massive issue but it's one I'd love to figure out.

 

I'm using vista 64bit on an older computer(5-6 years old) if that matters. I should add that this happens with all kinds of programs. Games, notepad, internet browser but does not happen every time.

 

Thanks for your time.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 10:32 AM

See if there is a Service or a Startup item by running a Clean Boot.

 

The following is written for Windows 7 but will work for Vista as well.

 

 
 
***This is a diagnotic tool for Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8.  This will not repair your computer, but it may point to where the problem lies so that a repair can be made.***
 
Warning:  Disabling items in Services or Startup may leave your anitivius disabled until the process is ended.  For this reason I would suggest that you perform this process off line.
 
Step 1
 
(1)  Click on the Start orb startorb_zps06e1f985.png, then type msconfig.exe in the Search programs and files box.  
 
(2)  When msconfig is seen in the pane above the search box and under Programs, right click on it, then click on Run as administrator.
 
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If you are prompted for an administrator password or for confirmation, you should enter the password or provide confirmation. 
 
Step 2
 
(1)  Click on the General tab.   
 
(2)  Click the Selective startup option. 
 
(3)  Remove the check mark in the Load startup items  check box. 
 
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Step 3
 
(1)  Click on the Services tab. 
 
(2)  Place a check mark in the Hide all Microsoft services check box, this will remove the Microsoft Services from the list but will still be running. 
 
(3)  Click Disable all, this will remove all of the check marks in the Services list, then click on Apply, then OK.  Click on Restart in the window that opens.
 
Caution:  By disabling the Services your antivirus will not be active, for this reason I suggest that this process not be run while online.
 
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If the problem does not reoccur after the reboot continue with the process of elemination to find the Service which is causing this in Option A.  If the problem does reoccur after the reboot go to Option B.
 
Option A
 
**The following is a process of elimination to find the Service or Startup item that is causing your problem**.  
 
*  If the problem does not reoccur after the restart go back to Services and place check marks in half of the boxes and restart the computer.  
 
*  If the problem still does not continue return to Services and remove the check marks that were added, then place check marks in the remaining half of the boxes and restart the computer.
 
If the problem resumes after a restart in one of these halves, you will procede with this process in the half where the problem occurs.  If this does not continue in either half you should repeat this process in Sartup
 
*  In the half of the Services that the problem is found, remove one check mark at a time and restart the computer to see if that  is the Service causing the problem.  Continue to do this with the Services untill the service causing this problem is  found.
 
Option B
 
Search Startup itmesIf the problem is not found in Services, remove all of the check marks, click on the Startup tab and repeat the search process there.
 
Caution:  If this is a laptop, make sure, you do NOT disable any keyboard, or touchpad entries.
 
If this problem is found post the Service or Startup item that is causing it.

Edited by dc3, 14 January 2014 - 10:37 AM.

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 07:45 AM

Thanks for posting, I'll give this a try. Since I can't seem to reproduce the issue on demand it might take some time to test it fully. Ill post back my results.



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Posted 16 January 2014 - 09:42 AM

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 04:59 PM

I only have 9 or so non microsoft services so it shouldn't take too long to narrow it down if something there is causing the issue. I'm testing a set now






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