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#1 CHansohn

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 11:49 PM

I currently have a custom built computer that Seems to be pretty powerful. But Some games Like Tomb raider 2013, and Bioshock Infinite have caused my system to see some serious frame rate drops running at max graphics. As well as Skyrim with the mods listed here for Ultra realism (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/30936/?) having some serious graphical artifacts to the point that polygons are being stretched across the screen like an unstable overclock (No I have not overclocked my system).

 

I'm wondering if I should upgrade my system, or just parts of it. I'm not sure if there is something new coming out in a few months I should wait for or if There isn't anything out there that will improve my system drastically enough to be worth the money.

 

My current system is:

Operating System: Windows 8

Antivirus Software: Avast

Firewall: ASUS RT-AC66U

Computer: Custom

CPU: Intel Core i7 950

Motherboard: Asus P6X58D-E

Ram: Corsair XMS3 DDR3 6x 2GB

Storage: Kingston SATA III 120 GB SSD

Video Card: Nvidia GTX 580 3-way SLI

Soundcard: Built in

Power Supply: Corsair 1200

Case: Maelstrom


CPU = Intel i7 950
Motherboard = Asus P6X58D
RAM = Corsair XMS3 DDR3 6X 2GB
Power Supply = Corsair AX1200W
Graphics Card = GTX 580 2-way SLI


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 12:04 AM

Looks very nice from your basics, but I am not a great hardware man (it would be great with Windows 7-Joke).

Try this and someone else may have another opinion.

 

Please post a snapshot with Speccy as this may give us a bit more to look at -
Publish a Snapshot using Speccy << Follow These Directions and only post the link.

 

If you have problems with the download, use FileHippo (sorry no link)

 

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 12:39 AM

I mostly like windows 8 because it has a smaller hardware foot print so more of the systems hardware can be used on the game not a loaded OS.

For me the start menu really isn't that bad. but idk maybe I'm not fussy enough about that stuff.

 

Here ya go. :)

http://speccy.piriform.com/results/uOUKJTNfqTu2eh0WGQo5wun


CPU = Intel i7 950
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Posted 30 December 2013 - 05:09 AM

Hi ,based from the specs that was provided, the reason for the poor performance is due to the 3rd graphics card not being used as much in games because some games don't scale too well with the 3rd of 4th card. My suggestion would be to sell your three 580s and get a GTX780 or 780ti which would provide much better framerates in games. 


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 10:50 AM

I see that would explain why GPU 2 or GPU 3 in MSI afterburner always are under 100% usage when I see frame rate drops. I find it odd that it wouldn't scale that way since it's basically more GPU cores and GPU RAM.

 

Would it be good to use SLI with the 780?


CPU = Intel i7 950
Motherboard = Asus P6X58D
RAM = Corsair XMS3 DDR3 6X 2GB
Power Supply = Corsair AX1200W
Graphics Card = GTX 580 2-way SLI


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:05 AM

I see that would explain why GPU 2 or GPU 3 in MSI afterburner always are under 100% usage when I see frame rate drops. I find it odd that it wouldn't scale that way since it's basically more GPU cores and GPU RAM.

 

Would it be good to use SLI with the 780?

You could use 2x 780 but depending on the resolution you game at, it may not necessary. Anything above 2560x1440 would benefit from the extra horsepower but apart from that, a single 780 can easily achieve 60 FPS.


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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:38 AM

Sounds good. Just get 1 780 now and if in the future I need more power get another one? or is SLI not really worth it and I'm better off just selling the old cards and upgrading?


CPU = Intel i7 950
Motherboard = Asus P6X58D
RAM = Corsair XMS3 DDR3 6X 2GB
Power Supply = Corsair AX1200W
Graphics Card = GTX 580 2-way SLI


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 02:26 PM

most of the time, the high end cards only choke when the resolution is way high or the display area is super duper sick with multiple monitors or 32" displays which would imply that your gpu vram is in the equation. the 7990 can be crossfired i think for that added vram stack.....the 690 can sli also.  what is the amperage on your PSU 12v rail(s)?

 

 

 i have a gtx 285 1gb 512-bit gddr3 to compliment my i7 950. it works great as my display is a miserly 1280 x 1024 (19 inch).


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 03:10 PM

My current setup uses 3 monitors. I'm guessing I'll need to do SLI to keep that setup.

Not sure what my 12v rail is. I have the Corsair AX 1200 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014)


Edited by CHansohn, 30 December 2013 - 03:12 PM.

CPU = Intel i7 950
Motherboard = Asus P6X58D
RAM = Corsair XMS3 DDR3 6X 2GB
Power Supply = Corsair AX1200W
Graphics Card = GTX 580 2-way SLI


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:09 PM

screaming psu batman!!!

 

 100 amps on the 12v, sweet deal for SLI. i think some users are improvising dual modular PSUs in one cabinet nowadays to be safe, sure and secure.

 

  a nice SLI getup will usually command around 700-800 watts with desired allocation of amps around 40 per gpu, you are in the zone. a 690 is two 670s in one pcb, but with the desire for sky-high vram, that could require a research campaign. i have witnessed dual 680s run with two 24" displays @ 55 fps on supreme commander with a 3rd gen i-5, but different games have different pipelines.


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:35 PM

you would actually probably see the same if not improved system performance with just removing one card and running 2 of your 580's

 

Id give that a try first while saving up for the new card(s)



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Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:55 PM

Really?! You think that having the Third card in is confusing the system and causing some slowdowns?


CPU = Intel i7 950
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RAM = Corsair XMS3 DDR3 6X 2GB
Power Supply = Corsair AX1200W
Graphics Card = GTX 580 2-way SLI


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 12:19 AM

is that motherboard holding you back? it may only utilize two PCI interfaces for GPUs, the third may be lost in translation...

 

 usually the GPU interface PCI has the spring clip on it...... my sabertooth x58 mobo is very similar and it does have the third  PCI slot with the spring clip but the third one don't match color of the primary two, which means something specific i am sure.

 

the P6X58D-E reports to support 3-way SLI, but your speccy readout suggests the third one isn't configured in tune with the primary two.

 

i see two blue PCI with the spring clip, and one white one with a spring clip at the bottom, like my x58. i would enjoy reading that manual, but i am on dial-up bandwidth at the moment and it would take a while to get it.

 

i am enthusiastic about reading about that 3rd slot out.

 

 my manual lists that 3rd one as PCI express x16  at x4 link, and the two primary slots as pci express 2.0 x 16 dual at x16 link.


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 05:36 AM

Hmm you might be right there. The manual says " 3x PCI Express 2.0 x16 slots (2x Blue, 1x Gray) (at x16/x8/x8 or x16/x16/x1 mode)


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 07:47 AM

Sounds good. Just get 1 780 now and if in the future I need more power get another one? or is SLI not really worth it and I'm better off just selling the old cards and upgrading?

Yep that's the plan, get 1 for now then later down the road get another if extra horsepower is needed, although i would personally get the best single card like the 780ti if the budget permits. Try synergy's suggestion first and see how it goes with 2 cards running.


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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Games: APB: Reloaded, Hours played: 3100+  System2: Late 2011 Macbook Pro 15inch   OFw63FY.png





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