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Are you supposed to be able to feel the hot air exiting the vent?


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#1 Captain_24

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Posted 27 December 2013 - 03:16 PM

My fan runs constantly and is somewhat loud so I'm worried about it overheating. It's never turned off once due to excessive heat. I have a Toshiba Satellite. I've had it for a year. I checked the Toshiba forums and it seems as if a lot of people's Toshiba laptops have obnoxious fans that run constantly and are loud.

 

I've sprayed out the vents with compressed air and it got some dust out but it didn't change anything. 

 

Regarding the heat exiting the exhaust, I can feel it but it doesn't seem very strong. I'm not sure what the force of the air pushing out is supposed to be. 

 

Thanks.


Edited by hamluis, 29 December 2013 - 06:51 PM.
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Posted 27 December 2013 - 03:23 PM

Warm or hot air out of the vent is normal.

 

The problem with blow out the vents is that due to the design it doesn't normally do much good.  Normally the fan is blowing through a radiator that cools the CPU and/or video card.  I have seen certain models of laptop that will bring in debris through a bottom vent and then it would collect on the radiator making a nice blanket and causing the cooling to be not as efficient.



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Posted 27 December 2013 - 03:34 PM

What do you suggest I do? Take off the back cover of the laptop? If so, how do I do that without damaging any sensitive parts inside?



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Posted 27 December 2013 - 03:40 PM

How strong is the air supposed to come out of the vent? When I put my hand by it I can feel heat but I don't feel anything pushing against my hand.



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Posted 27 December 2013 - 03:48 PM

It may be normal for your model.  Most of them don't have a lot of force outside of the laptop.  I'd suggest just monitoring it.  If others are saying that their fan is loud yours most likely isn't hot enough to cause the fan to speed up.



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Posted 27 December 2013 - 05:27 PM

You can use this program to monitor temps and control fan speeds. SpeedFan - Access temperature sensor in your computer

 

Many laptop users use something like this to keep the laptop cooler. Amazon.com: Cooler Master NotePal U2 - Laptop Cooling Pad with 2 Movable Fans (Frustration-Free Packaging): Computers & Accessories


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Posted 27 December 2013 - 07:01 PM

thanks



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Posted 27 December 2013 - 07:13 PM

according to fanspeed, 

 

HDO: 50C

Temp1: 83C

Core0: 83C

Core1: 83C

 

seems really hot. That's C as in Celsius (i assume)

 

CPU0 is 73 percent. CPU1 is 92 percent.

 

It doesn't show fan speed, just temperature.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:15 AM

That's hot!  If that is the CPU usage while supposedly idling, then that is way above normal, too.

Need to do some trouble shooting.

Start with cleaning up the temp files. Use Ccleaner. During the install Yahoo Toolbar or other will be offered. Be sure to UNcheck.

CCleaner - PC Optimization and Cleaning - Free Download

 

Run scans using the programs listed below to find adware / malware. Post the logs back here.

AdwCleaner Download

Junkware Removal Tool Download

Malwarebytes Anti-Malware Free

Free ESET Online Antivirus Scanner


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 02:14 PM

I use Ccleaner actually.

 

# AdwCleaner v3.016 - Report created 28/12/2013 at 10:58:33
# Updated 23/12/2013 by Xplode
# Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Service Pack 1 (64 bits)
# Username : Bob - Bob -PC
# Running from : C:\Users\Bob\Downloads\AdwCleaner.exe
# Option : Scan
 
***** [ Services ] *****
 
 
***** [ Files / Folders ] *****
 
Folder Found : C:\Users\Bob\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Extensions\iaenoodoabpfbmpcidlgdmjnghapjchg
Folder Found C:\Program Files (x86)\Conduit
Folder Found C:\ProgramData\apn
Folder Found C:\ProgramData\Uniblue\DriverScanner
Folder Found C:\Users\Bob\AppData\Local\Conduit
Folder Found C:\Users\Bob\AppData\LocalLow\boost_interprocess
Folder Found C:\Users\Bob\AppData\LocalLow\Conduit
Folder Found C:\Users\Bob\AppData\Roaming\pccustubinstaller
Folder Found C:\Users\Bob\AppData\Roaming\Searchprotect
 
***** [ Shortcuts ] *****
 
 
***** [ Registry ] *****
 
Key Found : HKCU\Software\AppDataLow\Software\Conduit
Key Found : HKCU\Software\AppDataLow\Software\Crossrider
Key Found : HKCU\Software\AppDataLow\Software\SmartBar
Key Found : HKCU\Software\Conduit
Key Found : HKCU\Software\Google\Chrome\Extensions\iaenoodoabpfbmpcidlgdmjnghapjchg
Key Found : [x64] HKCU\Software\Conduit
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Classes\AppID\{0A18A436-2A7A-49F3-A488-30538A2F6323}
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{007EFBDF-8A5D-4930-97CC-A4B437CBA777}
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Classes\driverscanner
Key Found : HKLM\Software\Conduit
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Google\Chrome\Extensions\iaenoodoabpfbmpcidlgdmjnghapjchg
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Tracing\ApnSetup_RASAPI32
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Tracing\ApnSetup_RASMANCS
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Tracing\au__rasapi32
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Tracing\au__rasmancs
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Tracing\ConduitInstaller_RASAPI32
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Tracing\ConduitInstaller_RASMANCS
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Tracing\driverscanner_RASAPI32
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Tracing\driverscanner_RASMANCS
Key Found : HKLM\Software\Uniblue
 
***** [ Browsers ] *****
 
-\\ Internet Explorer v11.0.9600.16428
 
 
-\\ Google Chrome v31.0.1650.63
 
[ File : C:\Users\Bob\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\preferences ]
 
 
*************************
 
AdwCleaner[R0].txt - [2386 octets] - [28/12/2013 10:58:33]
 
########## EOF - C:\AdwCleaner\AdwCleaner[R0].txt - [2446 octets] ##########


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 02:52 PM

Doesn't show that you allowed AdwCleaner to remove those files. If you didn't, rerun and allow it to remove them.

 

What about the other scans?

 

One item in AdwCleaner log is said to be a worm.

This worm creates the following folders:

  • %System Root%\All Users\Application Data\boost_interprocess

 

INSTRUCTIONS FOR AdwCleaner:

  • Close all open programs and internet browsers.
  • Double click on adwcleaner.exe to run the tool.
  • Click on Clean.
  • Confirm each time with Ok.
  • You will be prompted to restart your computer. A text file will open after the restart.
  • Please post the contents of that logfile with your next reply.
  • You can find the logfile at C:\AdwCleaner[S1].txt as well.

INSTRUCTIONS FOR JUNKWARE REMOVAL:

  • Shut down your protection software now to avoid potential conflicts.
  • Run the tool by double-clicking it. If you are using Windows Vista, 7, or 8; instead of double-clicking, right-mouse click JRT.exe and select "Run as Administrator".
  • The tool will open and start scanning your system.
  • Please be patient as this can take a while to complete depending on your system's specifications.
  • On completion, a log (JRT.txt) is saved to your desktop and will automatically open.
  • Post the contents of JRT.txt into your next message.

INSTRUCTIONS FOR ESET ONLINE SCANNER:

  • Click the esetonlinebtn.png button.
  • For alternate browsers only: (Microsoft Internet Explorer users can skip these steps)
    • Click on esetsmartinstaller_enu.exe to download the ESET Smart Installer. Save it to your desktop.
    • Double click on the esetsmartinstaller_enu.png icon on your desktop.
  • Check "YES, I accept the Terms of Use."
  • Click the Start button.
  • Accept any security warnings from your browser.
  • Under scan settings, check "Scan Archives" and "Remove found threats"
  • Click Advanced settings and select the following:
    • Scan potentially unwanted applications
    • Scan for potentially unsafe applications
    • Enable Anti-Stealth technology
  • ESET will then download updates for itself, install itself, and begin scanning your computer. Please be patient as this can take some time.
  • When the scan completes, click List Threats
  • Click Export, and save the file to your desktop using a unique name, such as ESETScan. Include the contents of this report in your next reply.
  • Click the Back button.
  • Click the Finish button.

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 03:54 PM

I'll post the other logs throughout the day.



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Posted 28 December 2013 - 03:56 PM

When you say "shutdown protection software" you mean my antivirus and firewall?



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Posted 28 December 2013 - 04:14 PM

# AdwCleaner v3.016 - Report created 28/12/2013 at 13:09:19
# Updated 23/12/2013 by Xplode
# Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Service Pack 1 (64 bits)
# Username : Bob - Bob-PC
# Running from : C:\Users\Bob\Downloads\AdwCleaner (1).exe
# Option : Clean
 
***** [ Services ] *****
 
 
***** [ Files / Folders ] *****
 
 
***** [ Shortcuts ] *****
 
 
***** [ Registry ] *****
 
 
***** [ Browsers ] *****
 
-\\ Internet Explorer v11.0.9600.16428
 
 
-\\ Google Chrome v31.0.1650.63
 
[ File : C:\Users\Bob\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\preferences ]
 
 
*************************
 
AdwCleaner[R0].txt - [2530 octets] - [28/12/2013 10:58:33]
AdwCleaner[R1].txt - [1935 octets] - [28/12/2013 12:57:52]
AdwCleaner[R2].txt - [950 octets] - [28/12/2013 13:07:45]
AdwCleaner[S0].txt - [2030 octets] - [28/12/2013 13:01:18]
AdwCleaner[S1].txt - [872 octets] - [28/12/2013 13:09:19]
 
########## EOF - C:\AdwCleaner\AdwCleaner[S1].txt - [931 octets] ##########


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 04:15 PM

Not your firewall...just antivirus and antispyware that is actively running in the background. Programs such as Norton, Spybot, etc.


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