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#1 Dj Tantra

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Posted 25 December 2013 - 09:09 PM

Hello All,

 

About two years ago I began planning a master build (I have 0 under my belt)- I spent an arm and a leg (according to what I think is an arm and a leg) on just the video card (I think they were 2 GTX580s) and on two, at that time new to the market, SSDs.

 

After getting about $1.3k in parts without even a MOBO/processor or even memory I abandoned the project due to expense and sold some of the parts to recoop some costs.

 

After cleaning my closet, I found some left over parts and was hoping someone can advise on a rig for daily and gaming use (I love the assassins creed gaming line from a few years back and have played skyrim and can see myself getting back into that).

 

Budget wise I am budget conscious as I'm back in school for an MBA and bills will be racking up while I'm not working full-time. I am hoping to get a descent machine ~$500 (dollars). Here's the little bit that I have thus far:

 

1. Crucial 256GB SATA SSD 6Gb/s (trying to boot from here)

2. BUFFALO MiniStation Stealth 1TB Portable HDD External Hard drive (storing all data here)

3. (2) 1 blu-ray, and 1 non blu-ray disk driver

4. (2) Nvidia GT545DE OEM 1 gig each x 2 = 2 gig total http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-545-oem-gddr5 (use as "SLI"?)

 

Here's what I'm hoping you gurus may be able to advise me on (which are the most important parts):

 

1. CPU

2. Motherboard

3. Case (space is not a constraint but would prefer something not "massive") 

4. Memory

5. Cooling (not sure how to set this up)

6. Power (based on vid card: Maximum graphics card power = 105W)

7. Anything else I may need to order (this is my first build- I won't need a monitor as I plan to hook this to a 50'' plasma)

 

 

Thanks a bunch for the input guys, and please note I'll be reviewing your input very thoroughly as I desperately need a new computer (using an age old netbook at the moment) and this will be VERYYY helpful and value added. Thanks again!!


Edited by Dj Tantra, 25 December 2013 - 09:12 PM.


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Posted 27 December 2013 - 12:28 AM

This may obliterate my budget and I know the original post is pretty vague, so perhaps some input on if this would be a good addition:

 

Intel i7 4930k

 

ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (Model:Sabertooth X79)

 

G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX (Model:F3-2400C10D-16GTX)

 

They have this combo on newegg for 1,035 but the CPU looks to be pretty fast and has some good reviews. This is definitely throwing me off the deep end on the budget though since the case, cooling, and power are going to run me a couple of hundred more bucks.

 

Thinking/hoping maybe someone can suggest an equivalent overclocked set-up that will cost me less/closer to budget?



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 02:52 PM

Was going to give this a post-holiday bump to see if anyone has any input before I pull the trigger. Thanks!



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 06:16 PM

First, don't bother with the gt545. Get a single, more powerful solution. For the sake of simplicity, lets just say it works out better with a single card.

 

As for the CPU/motheboard/etc - unless you have an actual need for a socket 2011 board, there is absolutely no reason to go there. Those are built for extreme multitasking, and multithreaded applications. Going with an ASRock Extreme 4 and an i5 4670K would be much closer to your budget, and the performance hit is absolutely minimal in everyday activities and gaminig (especially considering the video cards in question).


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 08:22 PM

First, don't bother with the gt545. Get a single, more powerful solution. For the sake of simplicity, lets just say it works out better with a single card.

 

As for the CPU/motheboard/etc - unless you have an actual need for a socket 2011 board, there is absolutely no reason to go there. Those are built for extreme multitasking, and multithreaded applications. Going with an ASRock Extreme 4 and an i5 4670K would be much closer to your budget, and the performance hit is absolutely minimal in everyday activities and gaminig (especially considering the video cards in question).

 

 

Thanks for the tip but I already have the 545 so trying to implement it. In re to the mobo- I do multi-task, and by that I mean: Excel, adobe, while having 5/6 tabs open in explorer type multi-tasking. Let me know if your opinion still remains the same.

 

Any input on power- I'm thinking 650w is enought wasn't able to get any details based on the graphics card.

 

Thanks!



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 11:33 PM

Hi, multitasking with just those programs on a LGA2011 platform is a complete overkill and you are better off with a i5 system which would easily cater for your needs.


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 12:48 AM

I agree with them. This combo would suit your needs and budget much better. Double up your RAM and get this cooler if you really want to OC


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 09:02 PM

Hi, multitasking with just those programs on a LGA2011 platform is a complete overkill and you are better off with a i5 system which would easily cater for your needs.

 

 

I agree with them. This combo would suit your needs and budget much better. Double up your RAM and get this cooler if you really want to OC

 

 

Thanks guys, good thing I waited to pull the trigger.

 

Does anyone know how I can make sure I get the right PSU? I'm not able to get the details for the Nvidia gt545de and don't have the box anymore. Glad I won't be mauling my budget.
 

1. Crucial 256GB SATA SSD 6Gb/s (trying to boot from here)

2. BUFFALO MiniStation Stealth 1TB Portable HDD External Hard drive (storing all data here)

3. (2) 1 blu-ray, and 1 non blu-ray disk driver

4. (2) Nvidia GT545DE OEM 1 gig each x 2 = 2 gig total http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-545-oem-gddr5 (use as "SLI"?)

 

So based on Panicky's rec, here's how the rest would sit:

 

1. Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54670K (Model:BX80646I54670K)

2.

  MSI Z87-G43 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX High Performance CF Gaming Intel Motherboard (Model:Z87-G43)

 

3. Case (space is not a constraint but would prefer something not "massive")

4.

  G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL (Model:F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL)

 

5. Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120 mm PWM Fan

 

6. CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply (Model:CP-9020042-NA)
 

7. Anything else I may need to order (this is my first build- I won't need a monitor as I plan to hook this to a 50'' plasma)

 

 

 

Lmk if anyone has other opinions/tweeks. Will probably bite the bullet by the end of this month!! Thanks again for the input.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:43 PM

Unless I'm mistaken your video card has no additional power connectors. Even if it does, the listed PSU has 4x  6/8-pin connectors. That card only draws 105W max, so there is plenty of reserve power. You'll probably never use even half of the PSU's capacity.

 

This Corsair case is excellent, and cheap too!


Edited by PanickyD, 13 January 2014 - 08:43 PM.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 12:19 PM

 

First, don't bother with the gt545. Get a single, more powerful solution. For the sake of simplicity, lets just say it works out better with a single card.

 

As for the CPU/motheboard/etc - unless you have an actual need for a socket 2011 board, there is absolutely no reason to go there. Those are built for extreme multitasking, and multithreaded applications. Going with an ASRock Extreme 4 and an i5 4670K would be much closer to your budget, and the performance hit is absolutely minimal in everyday activities and gaminig (especially considering the video cards in question).

 

 

Thanks for the tip but I already have the 545 so trying to implement it. In re to the mobo- I do multi-task, and by that I mean: Excel, adobe, while having 5/6 tabs open in explorer type multi-tasking. Let me know if your opinion still remains the same.

 

Any input on power- I'm thinking 650w is enought wasn't able to get any details based on the graphics card.

 

Thanks!

 

What I am referring to with extreme multitasking, would be rendering a 4k video while editing another. Until you get to that type of extreme, you really have no need for more than an i5. I know that the tasks you mention can even be tackled by an i3 should the need arise.

 

EDIT: FYI - you cannot combine your video ram. Each card has 1GB VRAM, and you will have 1GB Vram available in game, not 2GB. Long story short, the contents of video memory has to be copied over to both cards, they cannot be shared.

 

EDIT 2: Oh yeah, that final build is looking perfect!


Edited by waldojim42, 15 January 2014 - 12:22 PM.

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Test rig: AMD Phenom X4 955 @ 4.0Ghz : MSI 970A-G46 : 8GB Ram : 128GB Plextor M5s : 2x AMD 5770's (Flashed to 6770) : PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750 : Pioneer BR

Hackintosh : Gigabyte GA-H61m : Intel Celeron @ 3Ghz : 8GB ram : EVGA GTX 550Ti : Patriot Torx 2 64GB : Silverstone Strider ES-50 : OSX Mavericks

 


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 07:03 PM

Many thanks for the input guys. In re to the video card- since it's "SLI" enabled wouldn't it act as 1 2 gig? Will also google and get some infor. thanks for the heads up.

 

What are your views on this case:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=fSZmTH8JEeO0XjoMloNEXA0_EUWv3_.KR_0_0&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16811139026&cm_sp=

 

A little tacky with the LEDs but seems like it'll keep things nice and cool and isn't too pricey.

 

Thanks


Edited by Dj Tantra, 16 January 2014 - 07:05 PM.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 08:02 PM

Many thanks for the input guys. In re to the video card- since it's "SLI" enabled wouldn't it act as 1 2 gig? Will also google and get some infor. thanks for the heads up.

 

What are your views on this case:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=fSZmTH8JEeO0XjoMloNEXA0_EUWv3_.KR_0_0&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16811139026&cm_sp=

 

A little tacky with the LEDs but seems like it'll keep things nice and cool and isn't too pricey.

 

Thanks

The memory would be "mirrored" so it is still 1GB and looks like a solid case since it is from Corsair who is well known for making awesome and reliable cases.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:06 PM

 

Many thanks for the input guys. In re to the video card- since it's "SLI" enabled wouldn't it act as 1 2 gig? Will also google and get some infor. thanks for the heads up.

 

What are your views on this case:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=fSZmTH8JEeO0XjoMloNEXA0_EUWv3_.KR_0_0&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16811139026&cm_sp=

 

A little tacky with the LEDs but seems like it'll keep things nice and cool and isn't too pricey.

 

Thanks

The memory would be "mirrored" so it is still 1GB and looks like a solid case since it is from Corsair who is well known for making awesome and reliable cases.

 

 

 

What do you think of this mobo instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?SID=uckhIIVsEeOzspLRDiclhQNM13_uKIw3_uUR_0_0&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&ItemList=Combo.1543362&cm_sp=

 

MSI H81M-P33 LGA 1150 Intel H81 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

 

Thanks!

 

--EDIT: Just saw it only has 1 pci express slot, and I need two for the video card- boo!


Edited by Dj Tantra, 24 January 2014 - 10:08 PM.





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