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#1 Darktune

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 06:17 AM

Hey all,

 

Lately there has been some strife between Scotland and England (more than usual!)

 

I'm just interested in your points of view. 

 

Do you Scottish people want to be an independent land? What are the benefits for you?

Or do you Scottish people want to stay with England.

 

Same question to the English people what is your perspective on the whole thing.

 

I know that this idea has fizzled out now. But it would be interesting to see what your points of view are

 

I'm Welsh my self so I have no say. HA!


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Posted 21 December 2013 - 10:00 AM

My Dad was from Wales lol

We all want shut of the Coalition. Scotland think that's the best way to do it :thumbup2:


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Posted 21 December 2013 - 02:27 PM

Once we get rid of the scots, there is little chance of labour government for the rest of us.



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Posted 22 December 2013 - 06:02 AM

LOL what do You Mean " once We get rid of "



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Posted 22 December 2013 - 07:07 AM

We have loads of labour MP's from Scotland in Westminster.



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Posted 22 December 2013 - 07:26 AM

I don't think the 'getting rid of' is happening now. 

 

But it is interesting to see how you feel.


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Posted 22 December 2013 - 01:59 PM

I think a lot of people would be suprised if the English were to be given a referendum on whether we wanted the scots to stay in the union.



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Posted 22 December 2013 - 09:40 PM

I know this much, when the big flood comes, I'm heading for the hills of Scotland ;-)



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Posted 23 December 2013 - 03:40 AM

What about the hills of Wales ;)

 

At least there, if you get wet, you have sheep to dry yourself off.

 

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 10:18 PM

plenty of shrooms to get messy on too, for when the beer runs out.



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 09:33 PM

Don't get jealous, TsVk!, we've got the whisky as well as at least as many sheep as they have in Wales !

 

More seriously, it is a somewhat divisive issue here and it seems to be one that most people seem to be thinking about to themselves. It's certainly not an issue which comes up in bars and coffee shops very much, at least not in my experience. I know my wife and I have seldom brought up the subject between us, but that's because we are on opposite sides on the matter.

 

The point GeorgeHenry makes is a valid one. As Scotland normally elects a much higher proportion of Left leaning politicians than England does, it is true that Labour majorities have tended to be due to the Scottish vote in large part, but not entirely. As in all first past the post systems, the vote in 10 or 20 key constituencies tends to determine the outcome of a General Election.

 

I do have one question for the future. Should the forthcoming referendum result in a 'Yes' vote, what will become of the SNP ?  They will, after all, have achieved their essentially sole reason for existence, the one they have been fighting and campaigning for for about 80 years now.

 

As for the widely discussed matter of a post-independence currency, it has to be the Euro and we have to stay in Europe.

 

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 11:13 PM

It's a good question about the SNP. When activists achieve their long term goal... then what?

 

Probably the champagne will flow at first, but after the dust settles there may be some people looking for a new cause to fight. Often the mind set of activists is set on 'righting wrongs' or their perception of them anyhow), rather than having a particular cause that is true to them...

 

China has easily the most sheep in the world. Geez, these guys have loads of stuff! We're in the middle of a bad drought down here and have been culling livestock by the millions... Even India has more sheep than us now.



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 11:37 PM

All the Kiwis will be going to China now ... LOL



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 12:10 AM

New Zealand still has the highest ratio of sheep to people... Wouldn't want to share, or have second hand sheep.. after all.



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Posted 15 March 2014 - 07:32 PM

There is some real danger of this topic wandering way off topic !

 

I'm not quite sure what the OP meant by his remark 'interest has fizzled out'. It is not the citizen's fault that we are not getting our referendum until September, unlike some other people I could name. It's not our fault that the UK and Scottish parliaments work more slowly than the Russian government.

 

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