When I log into Window 8.1 the num lock is always off. Same thing continues in Win 8.1 after I upgraded to Win 8.
When the boot is complete (HP m7-j010DX) the num lock is still off. This is a higher end HP laptop and I am also blown away they pinched pennys to remove the on/off light on the num lock making the confusion worse.
This is driving me crazy as every PC I have used in the last 20 years has always started with the num lock on and had an "On" light. I continue to get stuck at boot up or can't figure out when my passwords won't work after login. It is a huge time waster.