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Posted 14 November 2013 - 12:45 PM
Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:30 PM
You might learn to use Google regarding such thoughts/questions about Windows and Microsoft. We are not authorized to be spokespersons for MS and their products, nor do we desire to be such. I suspect that Google provides a lot more information...than any forum or website might.
Posted 14 November 2013 - 02:39 PM
Posted 14 November 2013 - 11:35 PM
From personal experience, Microsoft doesn't care where the installation programs come from. The can come from an official Microsoft package, or from a Microsoft .iso file, as long as the programs are unchanged. The product key is about the only thing they care about. It must match the version you install.
That said, I don't think they will care what you do to the installation files. What I would suggest, is to install XP straight, then remove programs and options you don't want. I personally don't know how one would choose what to remove. As long as you don't try to sell the result, and only use it yourself, on your own machines, no one will squawk. And no, THIS IS NOT PIRACY!
As for building a minimized version, I seem to remember that the "Ultimate Boot CD For Windows" will build a minimized version of XP from your XP installation disk, with the assistance of Bart's PE, here: http://www.ubcd4win.com/index.htm. When built, and burned to a CD, the program starts the minimized Windows, and presents you with a bunch of tools to assist troubleshooting systems, kinda like the Linux rescue disks only XP based. You might try to build one without the tools. Should be doable. There's lots of instructions on how to modify the build.
The forgoing is my personal opinion and not that of this website.
Posted 15 November 2013 - 01:31 AM
Microsoft applications are closed source, you cannot pick and choose or add to installation excepting what is in the installer... legally, without a license.
Yes you can still buy XP on EBay.
You can do what ever the hell you want with XP as long as you don't get caught before 8th of April, or disassemble it for code.
As long as you don't invite the MS licensing officer over to check your version of XP you will be fine... if you want to install on 100 pc's for example see my last answer.
Posted 15 November 2013 - 04:56 AM
Posted 15 November 2013 - 06:59 AM
davnel, it's exactly what nlite does as well... as the OP stated. He asked if there was any MS authorized and legal applications for it... answer is no.
And yes, all versions of windows are contained in all installation disks, and the keys work. (if you know how to use them)
and OP, Windows CE is a developer tool, not suitable for you unless you are a programmer.
edit:what I meant by all versions is that home pro and ultimate are the same installation package, just that home and pro are crippleware.
Edited by TsVk!, 15 November 2013 - 07:19 AM.
Posted 15 November 2013 - 07:19 AM
Hi davnel and TsVk!,
Thank you both for replying to my message.
But cannot answer you both individually, at
the moment, as there is a more important,
or pressing computing matter.
Might be posting another message today
if I feel I need help!
Posted 15 November 2013 - 07:29 AM
Posted 15 November 2013 - 02:18 PM
Posted 15 November 2013 - 03:35 PM
Did a google search on "Windows XP Packer". Got a bunch of hits on a program called " Windows XP PowerPacker". This appears to be the answer to UBCD for Windows. It will allow the builder to produce an installable iso of whatever configuration you like, with or without drivers, and with or without auxiliary programs. In short, it allows you to configure XP in any fashion you like then create an iso that can produce a bootable installation disk.
Again, this comes down to using the result for your own installations only. You can't sell it or installations of it. I haven't looked into the licensing issues yet, but I imagine they will be covered in detail.
Well worth a look-see and playing around to discover what it can do.
Posted 15 November 2013 - 04:31 PM
Although I do thank you for answering all my questions I thought, and you can correct meif I am wrong, that Microsoft HAS 'created', or DOES 'provide', a program to create a slimdown version of Windows XP.
Not to my knowledge. There is no "authorized and legal" package... As davnel said it directly contravenes their EULA.
Would be interested to hear if there is one.
Posted 15 November 2013 - 05:01 PM
Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:09 PM
I will try to answer your questions as I can. Please understand that I have just learned of this program today, and have not studied it.
1. Windows XP PowerPacker is available here:
and documented starting here:
There is much info on that site that you need to read and understand.
As background, you also should study the documentation for UBCD for Windows starting here:
2. I have no way of knowing if Microsoft has blessed this package or not. You can probably find out by perusing the various forums and help sites you might find via Google, as I did.
As long as you start from a licensed, valid copy of XP, and restrict its use to your personal machines, you should be fine. Again, Microsoft doesn't care what you do to your own copy of the OS, as long as you don't try to sell it, or yell at them for technical support after you screw it up. That said, I don't see Microsoft concerning itself with a version of XP produced by this package - they have no reason to.
I will also say that, if you are looking for a push-button, no effort, automatic solution to this problem, you likely will not find it. These two programs are about as good as you're gonna get. You WILL need to study both so you understand the structure of XP, what it needs, and what it doesn't need, to operate. You might also end up researching XP in the TechNet Library for the finer points. Once you understand what you want, and have built the control files accordingly, the process of generating the .iso file is virtually automatic. Getting there IS NOT.
As I said before, one alternative is to do a full install of XP, on the system on which you intend to run it, INCLUDING all drivers for that hardware and any necessary software for your required environment. I can't imagine disk space being a problem now, so I don't really understand the necessity of a "minimum" system, unless you have a RAM limit, but 1GB should be enough, and more is really cheap. That wasn't a question, merely a comment.
In any event, once it's up and running, with all hardware and software fully functional, I would start doing a process of setting a restore point, removing something, and testing. If it works, repeat. If it doesn't, restore the system and try again with something else. Keep this up until you get it down where you want it. Understanding what XP requires at a minimum, will help immensely, so study.
Edited by davnel, 15 November 2013 - 10:39 PM.
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