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Three user network setup ?..VPN, Server or cloud?


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#1 geno368

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:00 AM

I am going to setup some kind of network between one PC home system and 2 PC remote systems in an out building 150 yards away.  I am new to this so I need help choosing the cheapest and most effective way to do it.

This is what I have so far:

All 3 have a dsl connection..they are running XP Prof sp3...The home computer is being set up with commercial accounting software for my small business...I am going to purchase 2 more licenses for the remote pc's...I want to be able to access data files on all systems.

I am sure you need more info but need to be led in the correct path. Thanks in advance..



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:33 AM

Hello geno368,

 

All 3 have a dsl connection..they are running XP Prof sp3

 

Assuming all of your devices are connected you can install Teamviewer on the base computer and connect to it. Free and Pay service 

 

Work group name (all three computers have the same name as the workgroup) free

 

Effective way

 

would be Wireless N or AC in bridge mode

 

Wireless Access Point>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wireless Repeater

 

Wireless AP have some factors

a. Range

b. Out building is not made out of concrete 

 

Application bandwidth

 

Run a fix cable CAT5e or Cat6 in conduit  


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:01 PM

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:21 PM

I have a couple of info changes that my partner gave me incorrect info on:

The out building (trailer) is approx 250 yards away...he bought a signal booster and repeater antenna ( I am not sure yet what he bought)

He is willing to run a cat5 cable there although he has a clear line of sight to the building...We will be running QB Premier 2014...We will be doing AP, AR, GL, inventory and billing....the home office is a Win 8 and the other 2 are Win 7....

I am going out there tomorrow to d/check the facts



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:43 PM

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:04 AM

Cave dweller, why did you delete?



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 11:38 AM

Ya know that old saying "too many cooks spoil the soup"? Just gonna let coxchris help you. But I'm curious how you'll solve this, so I'll be watching =)


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 12:58 PM

From what your describing your partner is going to be doing a wireless network from the House to the trailer. 

 

Wireless N or AC will work that why he brought a signal boaster and a  repeater. 

 

If you had a high bandwidth application such as real-time, application,  streaming or you tube applications then I would say fixed cable. Fix cable will work but labor extensive.

 

Wireless seems to be cost effective but they will both work.

 

For example. One of my projects involves "extending the network" at my church but The main church is in concrete walls so I have to run a network cable because wireless cant penetrate concrete and they are going to use Media Shout.    

 

Please Let me know what your partner brought and if you have any additional information 

 

Cave Dweller, Dont be afraid to post. I welcome input 


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 02:56 PM

Thanks, I didn't wanna step on toes =) 

 

Couple questions: Is the QB program a server based program or are you just wanting to store the files on a server? Is there really a need to transfer files between the computers? What I'm getting at, besides the files that the QB program saves and you use, why do you need the computers networked together? 

 

Because I think you can solve a few things with one service: cloud storage. My only experience is with Google Drive tho, because it does what I need it to so I haven't looked anywhere else. But you just install Drive on the computers, save the QB files in the Drive folder and they are synced to the ones online automatically. So they are available anywhere, you can set who has access to them and they're backed up. And 5 GB is free. To get more it's $4.99/month for 100GB. That is a great price.

 

If you want the computers networked together I'd go wired. Running the cable with conduit is fairly straight forward, not that hard so you could keep costs down and do it yourself, and would be the most reliable. I'd do Cat6 and get gigabit all the way around.

 

Wireless will do but I'd only use it as a last resort. The distance outside isn't that big of a deal, you can get directional antenna if needed. I do love wireless but my issue is I love it when it works and want to kick a kitten when its not. It drives me insane, "It's RIGHT there you stupid laptop. CONNECT!!!" I have had that convo a number of times.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 04:47 PM

I really appreciate the help.  I have not been able to get out there yet, but today he advised me that the cable internet connection was 24.7 mbps dl, 6.3 ul which is pretty good for residential.  He does have a directional antenna pointing straight line of site to the trailer window.  I am thinking he can then connect the other pc with ethernet to the router in the trailer.  What do you think?

QuickBooks Premier 2014 is the program and he will do inventory at his office and the other 2 girls will take turns with a/r. a/p etc which will need to update to the host I am guessing.



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 06:02 PM

He needs to buy a AP that has Wireless Repeater Function so that the  

 

House                                                                                             Trailer

Wireless AP with Repeater                                                            Receiver with a simple 4  port switch 

 

If you go Wireless Since this is a business with High Value of data

 

encryption with WPA2 with AES So the link is secured

 

Like CaveDweller said that is a factor too

 

For  cable run you will need roughly  

 

cat5e or cat6 

terminators x2 or more if you need practice on terminating cable

crippler tool 

Cable Tester (optional) 

conduit

 

Drop box is a option too it rely on the same techniques as Drive. 


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 10:25 AM

I am on my way to finalize plans and verify info at the site and will advise...Thanks again..



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:28 AM

I am going to purchase an AP600ex Amped pro wireless access point for the office and a SR600ex rabge extender for the trailer.  Both are wireless N (600mW) Then attaching the 2 pc's in the trailer to the router there by ethernet.  What do yo think?



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:49 AM

I have no experience with those pieces of equipment so I dunno if they are any good. But you have the correct idea. And I like you can have an external antenna if needed.

 

They seem like over kill for 250 feet but over is better than under when it comes to wireless. What reviews do you see? I normally don't look at individual reviews because most are for some it works perfectly every time and for others it never works ever. But I do look at the number of reviews and how many are 4+ stars. So if most of them are 4+ then it must be good for most.


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 10:10 AM

My research show thewse as being high quality professional grade components and I agree it is overkill but I only want to do this once...Thanks for all the help






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