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#1 ben79k

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 12:48 AM

99% certain that a piece of my hardware is causing major issues here, but I'm stumped as to what, and why.

I built this spare PC from parts from my past rigs... It freezes at random points, sometimes just while idling, sometimes while working. I can move the mouse around but there is no response from clicking on anything or pressing any keys. only solution to power it down is hold power button or switch off PSU.

 

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Pentium D E6700 3.2GHz

ASUS P5QL-PRO on newest BIOS revision

4GB DDR2 RAM (2GB Gskill 1000Mhz downclocked to 800 to match the other 2GB Patriot 800Mhz stick)

Seasonic 450W PSU

Seagate momentus 7200RPM 500GB HDD

EVGA NVIDIA 8800GT Superclocked edition

Win 8.1 Pro 64-bit

 

-HDD Tune offers no health warnings on the drive, yet just before the rig freezes, Resource Manager shows disk I/O usage at 100% yet nothing is using over 0.3mb/s.

-Matching sticks of RAM from two different kits is awful, im aware, yet this problem still occurs if i use either the patriot stick or the gskill stick..

-PSU fan is seemingly maxxed, could it be a power issue? not much sag on the 12V according to HWMonitor...

 

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 02:02 AM

What is the model number of your powersupply so we can look it up and determine the power outputs.

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 04:16 AM

Im pretty sure it came out of some OEM situation I had years ago, its poorly labelled, cant find it on the internet. Here are the specs via the sticker, imagine them in a table, sorry. 3rd row applies to the two above it, ie. 130W is spec of the +3.3 and +5

+3.3V +5V +12V +12V -12V +5Vsb

22A  16A  14A  16A  0.8A  2.5A

130W 360W 22W

450W


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 06:04 AM

I would definitely get a stronger PSU of at least 600watts or greater a Corsair GS600 would do.

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 03:15 PM

600 is enough to pull my gaming rig along, with a 125W cpu and a 2x 6pin video card, this system is a lot less... how can i be sure its a power issue?


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 03:48 PM

Unless it is a top quality PSU, you are under the recommended limit. When the 8800 Nvidia cards came out they recommended a 500w. In your case it sounds like an HDD problem. What is the serial and model of the Seagate you are using? I know Seagate had a slew of older drives that would start to freeze up the computer and some that would stop working.  


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 05:33 PM

Yes the GS600 will be more then enough for your current config, and if you want some wiggle room for future upgrades get a GS700.

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:12 PM

@Crypto, if i get another PSU to try i will, this is just a spare-parts rig. thanks. Makes sense, good to know 500W is recommended for 8800GT.

@XAQ, this is more interesting, as I have other drives. HDD Tune said my seagate was fine, any other good test utilities? I have a whole other rig to run tests on... 

 

Seagate 7200.4 500GB

firmware: 0002sdm1

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SN: 5vj0kal3

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:24 PM

You cant do a proper HDD test in an OS for starters. Most tests can be run but other like SMART tests cannot be run properly within an OS, requires a separate boot that doesn't use the HDD. Also not all drive problems will show up as failures in tests. I asked about Seagate because I have a drive from them with a similar issue and shows no problem in any test but still freezes the OS. The drive just stops working. I don't know if it was the PCB, Firmware, or what. But replacing the HDD fixed everything.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:24 PM

XA, This rig, with issues, is a spare ive built to use as a file server, and for office tasks. I have a gaming rig in my bedroom for any testing purposes. HDD Tune run on my gaming rig shows that my Seagate (mounted as G: at the moment) is healthy, yet im agreeing that it appears to have issues, can you reccomend other test utilities?


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:13 AM

If it is the same problem my Seagate had you will never find the problem until it is to late. The best thing I can think of is keep a log of what exactly you are doing once the problem occurs then look to see if their are any patterns in your activity during the occurrence.



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:15 AM

You can using the following: http://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/item/seatools-dos-master/ to create a bootable DOS CD and perform an extended test with it.

 

You will need to go into your BIOS and change the boot options from HDD to CD-ROM and it will boot up.



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:33 AM

Tossed in a Haitachi "Death"star 120GB and Ubuntu 13.10, i'll post later if this config starts to act up.


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