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GPU Upgarde from GeForce GTX 460 to new GPU


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#1 TorinoFermic

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 04:54 PM

Hello Everyone,

 

 

To start all short :

 

My main gpu died of age ( massive anromalies on screen and almost dead gpu and yeah i already checked for any signs of overheat damage ).

 

"I should honor my decreased GPU named ASUS GeForce GTX 460 for rendering her services at my gaming and my college work, may you rise to the sillicon heavens. Amen !"

 

 

So, i decided search for a remplacment which also acts as planned remplacement because my old gpu lasted 3 years.

 

After days of searches and works, i found the best match :

 

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 4GB : http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?item_id=063802

 

Why so much VRAM ? Because i am a EVE Online player and i do hold 2 accounts, so sometimes i would end running 4 EVE Online clients including TEST server clients. So it could tax the VRAM if it just had 2 GB of it.

 

And last, i expect this GPU to be around faster than my old gpu and be capable handle new video games for 3 years. The problem is the GeForce 800 will come in 3 months and thats suck waiting 3 months without being able launch some games.

 

So, i ask to everyone here.

 

There any better choice than this video card i showed of my choice ( i dont care if this is NVIDIA or ATI ) ?

 

EDIT : By the way, i would accept GPU that cost less than 500 $ because the limitation of giftcard RBC VISA

 

 

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Edited by TorinoFermic, 25 October 2013 - 05:31 PM.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 05:09 PM

If you buy from eVGA they have a Step Up Program, but quite honestly I would buy a GTX 680 and that will last you a while.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 08:59 PM

If you buy from eVGA they have a Step Up Program, but quite honestly I would buy a GTX 680 and that will last you a while.

 

Yes but this step up program does allows only stock GPUs, and i dont see any a 670 GTX. Still, a overclocked 760 can beat a 670 GTX. This is why i also taken it in account.

Do you need additional information about my current PC config ?



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 03:15 PM

I don't know your monitor / multi-monitor setup, but unless you have high res dual/triple screens, then 3 gigs of VRAM will do just fine.  All that VRAM matters is what is rendered on the screen(s).

 

NVidia 800 series out in 1Q2014....maybe, maybe not.  TSMC isn't on pace with their 20nm fab yet, so any launch will be purely a paper launch, which NVidia has been known to do.  Best case scenario from what I can gather, 3Q2014 is a more realistic estimate.  Some are betting that TSMC will screw the pooch badly enough that any new 20nm based processors will be pushed back to 4Q2014 or 1Q2015 (TSMC has done it before, and before that, and before that......).  Off chance there might be a low production run of Maxwell GPUs on a larger process, but they would be rare, hot, and expensive.  How much it gets rushed depends a lot on AMD.  NVidia already has a 780Ti ready (November introduction) to slightly pull ahead of the R9 290X.  If the 290X sells well, there might be another "Halo" card like the Titan released in limited quantities in Q1Q/2Q2014 just for bragging rights.

 

Get the card you want now and enjoy it.  I don't think there is a miracle card around the corner.  Finding a new video card to last 3 years is about going to be impossible with all of the new consoles being released this year.  New consoles=better graphics, and the stagnation of XBox360 and PS3 are done with.  Lots of neat stuff in the next 12-16 months.  Figure also that Valve is trying to swing their own gaming OS, and AMD is trying to introduce "Mantle", lots of POTENTIAL changes on the horizon.

 

I will end it like all of my fortune telling posts....."I could be wrong."


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 07:11 PM

There goes back to downgrade my choice back to 2 GB versions anyway.

 

Well, making my main gpu to last 3 years is petty my technican who chose right gpu.

 

My specs :

 

Intel i7 3770K | Corsair H50

Maybe GTX760 to 770

8 Gig Corsair XM8

 

Single monitor setup, yeah.

 

I think i gotten the answer i needed about the inner workins on usage of VRAM.

 

Thanks for it.


Edited by TorinoFermic, 26 October 2013 - 07:17 PM.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 03:14 PM

My suggestion is to purchase the most powerful GPU you can afford because hoping the card will last 3 years while be capable of playing the latest games in the near future at max graphics settings is unrealistic. I got my pair of graphics card in 2011 and hope it would still have the power to be able play the latest games at max settings but once games like Tomb Raider, Crysis 3 came out this year, my average FPS for those games were only 30 despite both cards working their guts out. 


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:59 PM

My suggestion is to purchase the most powerful GPU you can afford because hoping the card will last 3 years while be capable of playing the latest games in the near future at max graphics settings is unrealistic. I got my pair of graphics card in 2011 and hope it would still have the power to be able play the latest games at max settings but once games like Tomb Raider, Crysis 3 came out this year, my average FPS for those games were only 30 despite both cards working their guts out. 

 

Well, i am going tell you one thing i found in youtube : SLI GTX 760 can curbstromp a Titan, and a SLI of GTX 770 will even do by kicking repeatly Titan's balls very hard. for half titan price.

 

http://youtu.be/KfOtmoxLMXI


Edited by TorinoFermic, 27 October 2013 - 06:00 PM.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:56 PM

Please do not judge a cards performance by watching reviews online and by reading them as well. They are very deceiving, as they usually done in conditions that normal consumers cannot have. I built a computer once based upon reviews I had read online, and I got burnt by the performance. I would still quite honestly buy a GTX 680 as it is still a very powerful card. I have a GTX 580 and can throw any game at it without it hurting for performance.

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 08:31 PM

Please do not judge a cards performance by watching reviews online and by reading them as well. They are very deceiving, as they usually done in conditions that normal consumers cannot have. I built a computer once based upon reviews I had read online, and I got burnt by the performance. I would still quite honestly buy a GTX 680 as it is still a very powerful card. I have a GTX 580 and can throw any game at it without it hurting for performance.

It appears they are stopped making 680 GPUs and i know very well 780 gpus are simply rebranded 680 gpus with higher price tag. **** IT, i am gonna take a 770 or 760. Hell even i could take your suggestion about step up program.

 

Edit : there a third option : picking gtx 670 that fits well the price tag i could afford it.


Edited by TorinoFermic, 27 October 2013 - 08:33 PM.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 08:53 PM

GTX 680 Video Card

Also who told you that they stopped making 680's?

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 11:37 PM

The GTX780 is not a rebranded 680, it uses a GK110 chip which is the same one as the Titan. Also dual GTX760 may achieve an higher FPS then the Titan but some games do not scale to well, so the Titan would still outperform the pair of GTX760.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 06:28 AM

GTX 680 Video Card

Also who told you that they stopped making 680's?

Well, on website of CandaComputer, i dont see much geforce 680 where i could buy online. This was likely i got wrong on one website. I dinit bother check this on newegg. However, on Ncix.com, i saw just one single gtx 680.

To explain why gtx 680 wont be restocked : http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_1200_557_559&item_id=050127

This is clearence sale but i can be wrong when it was a marketing move.

 

 

The GTX780 is not a rebranded 680, it uses a GK110 chip which is the same one as the Titan. Also dual GTX760 may achieve an higher FPS then the Titan but some games do not scale to well, so the Titan would still outperform the pair of GTX760.

Now, i learned one new thing : How see if this is a rebranded or not.


Edited by TorinoFermic, 28 October 2013 - 06:28 AM.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 09:50 AM

Sorry for this bump but i have show my situation i am in at this time.

 

I live in Canada ( Ontario ), so Ontario's HST is really high ( 12 % ) but i could also ship it to my father's house who is in Quebec for lower taxes but my father would be gone on a trip to visit old world's wonders.

 

Then after many helpful posts here, i came to the best wishlist i could make ( useful to store my possible choices ) :

 

Order from best to worst disregarding the price :

  1. Refurbished EVGA 04G-P4-2686-RX GeForce GTX 680 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card ( http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130855 ) : 379.99 $ ( - 200 $ out of original price ) but cooling is stock
  2. GIGABYTE GV-N670OC-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card ( http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125423 ) : 359.99 $ with lowest shipping price i ever seen for 3.99 $

Take in account i would buy a GPU by using a 500 $ giftcard, so this is hard to find a geforce gtx 680 without worrying about going above 500 $ with taxes.

I bet you have solutions out the box on hand here ?

 

Thanks for everyone who responded so far my questions and those who will respond my questions.


Edited by TorinoFermic, 28 October 2013 - 09:51 AM.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:52 AM

Hold off a week.  NVidia just announced price cuts on all of their high end stuff.  You might be able to pick up a GTX770, which is an upgraded GTX680, for less than what  those 680s are going for.  Prices are supposed to change Tuesday morning, but I don't know how soon Etailers will follow.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 12:48 PM

Hold off a week.  NVidia just announced price cuts on all of their high end stuff.  You might be able to pick up a GTX770, which is an upgraded GTX680, for less than what  those 680s are going for.  Prices are supposed to change Tuesday morning, but I don't know how soon Etailers will follow.

Soon as i posted my last reply, i have noticed on a computer new website talking about a nvidia going drop GeForce's prices. It makes sense to take a GTX 770.






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