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Misplaced Priorities


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#1 yano

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 07:01 PM

Stick To Downloading Child Porn, Not Movies, If You Want Short Jail Sentences

expand the DCMA hoping to crack down on the possession of any tool that would help to circumvent DRM.

"The bill's new revisions would allow for 10-year sentences for music and software piracy. This is longer than the five years one can get for assaulting a police officer, and the seven years for downloading child pornography."

"Still, any law that would make piracy a more severe crime than child porn is an indication that the government has completely lost its priorities, and is totally at the whim of its industry donors."


When I first read this I just couldn't believe it. I'm shocked that our government is practically giving up on there fight for Child Pornography after asking for search engine random queries.

But circumventing DRM 10 years itself is extreme.

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 10:20 AM

The government does not give up on anything, especially when it comes to regulating our lives (for our own good, of course); this is just one tentacle of the octopus flexing (to mix metaphors) it wings to see how much power the citizens will give up. Or maybe it is just that the RIAA has more money to throw in front of a Congress where, as Walpole once whispered to a colleague as they entered the House of Commons, " every man here has his price."
Or maybe it is easier to repay the RIAA for donations and gifts than it is to work together to solve the crises confronting the US today, made far more serious by decades of everyone ignoring the problems, especially the government.
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Posted 27 April 2006 - 02:45 PM

So illegaly downloading movies/music carries a heavier sentence than assaulting a police officer or downloading child porn?

.......sorry, but that really makes no sense what-so-ever.... I mean, i know music/movie piracy is illegal, and those that participate should have a major fine or something, but i seriously doubt it should carry a heavier punishment than assaulting an officer or helping the child porn ring. Assault involves violence, and the child pornography involves the exploitation of children, most often against their will, and may include violence and abuse.

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Posted 28 April 2006 - 08:23 AM

I know I feel the same way here Heretic Monkey. Until we get congressmen and women that actually know how technology works and knows more about it, in office. Then we will have more efficient laws with more reasonable and sensible punishments.

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Posted 28 April 2006 - 09:15 AM

Hmmm.....technically, downloading child porn isn't illegal, it's just wrong. Filming child porn is illegal. The jail time threatened for doing such is more of a tool to attempt to gather more evidance of illegal activities, and/or to crack down on the source from which the child porn was created or originall filmed. I think that the intent of making it illegal to download child porn was to give investigators a "lead" to help find the source of where the porn came from. I'm sure that people have been in trouble for downloading child porn, but chances are that if it went to court, they'd only get a short sentance. Now, if they went to court, and were found guilty of downloading child porn, along with being found guilty of soliciting a minor, forcing minors to engage in "inappropriate" activities, and sexually harassing a minor, then I'd be he/she would be in jail for a long long time.

Long story short, I think that the illegal to download child porn law was made as a deterent and as a possible "door opener" for authorities.

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Posted 28 April 2006 - 12:56 PM

Our Congressmen are either technologically uninformed (I am being polite here) or just too easily swayed by donations from the large broadband ISPs. Now they have killed (in committee so no one has to have a vote registered on the HR floor) the net neutrality law, which is supported by many consumer groups as well as, Google and Yahoo.

The bipartisan SavetheInternet.com Coalition accused the committee of "selling out the Internet." The group, which says it gathered more than 250,000 signatures on petitions supporting net neutrality in less than one week, said it will continue to fight for a new law as the telecom reform bill moves forward.

See the PCWorld article:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,125567,00.asp

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Posted 28 April 2006 - 04:01 PM

Maybe if the prices werent such a rip-off they would buy the originals?
I mean come on a dvd can cost me like 35 cents a disk and even then some company is making money. Im talking about blank dvds. So it costs them less than 35 cents to make a blank dvd and they copy the movie on thousands of dvds and then charge 22 bucks...

People are tired of spending that much and watching the celebs getting richer.
Im not saying its good to copy dvds or music but maybe if prices were lower it would be less because when you copy a movie you dont get the original case or paper sleeve and such.

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Posted 03 May 2006 - 12:29 PM

Hmmm.....technically, downloading child porn isn't illegal, it's just wrong.


I think you might be wrong on that one. I'm sure possession is illegal. That's what most of 'em get busted for. I also think that this might be an urban legend. I looked it up on Snopes.com, but didn't find anything. Still, something about it jut doesn't ring true.

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Posted 03 May 2006 - 12:47 PM


Hmmm.....technically, downloading child porn isn't illegal, it's just wrong.


I think you might be wrong on that one. I'm sure possession is illegal. That's what most of 'em get busted for. I also think that this might be an urban legend. I looked it up on Snopes.com, but didn't find anything. Still, something about it jut doesn't ring true.


Good point. I believe you are correct!
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Posted 03 May 2006 - 04:54 PM

Question:

Who has deeper pockets distraut parents or RIAA?
There is your answer

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Posted 04 May 2006 - 01:41 AM

KINDER MAN SENTENCED FOR POSSESSION
OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY

Leesville Doctor sentenced to federal prison for possessing
child pornography on personal computer


LAFAYETTE, LOUISIANA . . . United States Attorney Donald W. Washington announced today that CASEY CLARK MCVEA, age 35, from Kinder, Louisiana, was sentenced today in federal court to 51 months (4 years, 3 months) imprisonment, 3 years supervised release, and a $10,000 fine. United States District Judge Richard T. Haik recommended that MCVEA serve his sentence in Butner, North Carolina, where he will receive sex offender treatment.


http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/law/news/wdl20060327.html

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