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#1 geohammer

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 03:02 PM

hello

i have recently built my own gaming PC, with very expensive,top end parts these are listed below:

cpu: AMD FX-8320 eight-core @3.5GHZ

ram: ddr3-10700 667mhz 16gb (2x8gb)

 

motherboard: GIGABYTE AMD 78LMT-USB3 AM3+

 

hard drive(s): one with operating system:184gb 

                      one for personal stuff and back-ups 1.36tb
 

operating system: windows 7 ultimate 64bit


can anyone please give me any assistance or help on how to speed up my system or if i am doing anything wrong
if you need any more information please ask


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 07:17 PM

Please download MiniToolBox  , save it to your desktop and run it.

 

Checkmark the following checkboxes:

  List last 10 Event Viewer log

  List Installed Programs

  List Users, Partitions and Memory size.

 

Click Go and paste the content into your next post.

 

Also...please Publish a Snapshot using Speccy - http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic323892.html/page__p__1797792#entry1797792 , taking care to post the link of the snapshot in your next post.

 

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 07:48 PM

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MiniToolBox by Farbar  Version: 13-07-2013
Ran by geohammer (administrator) on 07-09-2013 at 01:47:37
Running from "C:\Users\geohammer\Downloads"
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate  Service Pack 1 (X64)
Boot Mode: Normal
***************************************************************************
 
========================= Event log errors: ===============================
 
Application errors:
==================
Error: (09/06/2013 08:01:19 PM) (Source: WinMgmt) (User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003
 
Error: (09/05/2013 09:11:48 PM) (Source: WinMgmt) (User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:23 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service) (User: )
Description: The Windows Search Service is being stopped because there is a problem with the indexer: The catalog is corrupt.
 
 
Details:
The content index catalog is corrupt.  (HRESULT : 0xc0041801) (0xc0041801)
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:23 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service) (User: )
Description: The search service has detected corrupted data files in the index {id=4400}. The service will attempt to automatically correct this problem by rebuilding the index.
 
 
Details:
The content index catalog is corrupt.  (HRESULT : 0xc0041801) (0xc0041801)
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:23 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service) (User: )
Description: The index cannot be initialized.
 
 
Details:
The content index catalog is corrupt.  (HRESULT : 0xc0041801) (0xc0041801)
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:23 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service) (User: )
Description: The application cannot be initialized.
 
Context: Windows Application
 
 
Details:
The content index catalog is corrupt.  (HRESULT : 0xc0041801) (0xc0041801)
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:23 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service) (User: )
Description: The gatherer object cannot be initialized.
 
Context: Windows Application, SystemIndex Catalog
 
 
Details:
The content index catalog is corrupt.  (HRESULT : 0xc0041801) (0xc0041801)
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:23 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service) (User: )
Description: The plug-in in <Search.TripoliIndexer> cannot be initialized.
 
Context: Windows Application, SystemIndex Catalog
 
 
Details:
Element not found.  (HRESULT : 0x80070490) (0x80070490)
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:20 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service) (User: )
Description: The plug-in in <Search.JetPropStore> cannot be initialized.
 
Context: Windows Application, SystemIndex Catalog
 
 
Details:
The content index catalog is corrupt.  (HRESULT : 0xc0041801) (0xc0041801)
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:19 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service) (User: )
Description: The Windows Search Service cannot load the property store information.
 
Context: Windows Application, SystemIndex Catalog
 
 
Details:
The content index server cannot find a description of the content index in its database. Search will automatically attempt to recreate the content index description.  If this problem persists, stop and restart the search service and, if necessary, delete  and recreate the content index.  (HRESULT : 0x80041181) (0x80041181)
 
 
System errors:
=============
Error: (09/06/2013 01:41:06 AM) (Source: DCOM) (User: )
Description: {E10F6C3A-F1AE-4ADC-AA9D-2FE65525666E}
 
Error: (09/05/2013 09:08:33 PM) (Source: DCOM) (User: )
Description: {E10F6C3A-F1AE-4ADC-AA9D-2FE65525666E}
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:24 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: The Windows Search service terminated unexpectedly.  It has done this 1 time(s).  The following corrective action will be taken in 30000 milliseconds: Restart the service.
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:24 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: The Windows Search service terminated with service-specific error %%-1073473535.
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:21 PM) (Source: WMPNetworkSvc) (User: )
Description: WMPNetworkSvc0x80004005
 
Error: (09/05/2013 07:41:44 AM) (Source: Microsoft-Windows-WindowsUpdateClient) (User: NT AUTHORITY)
Description: Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x80070002: Startec - Streaming Media and Broadcast - STARTEC 1.3MP Webcam.
 
Error: (09/05/2013 03:04:34 AM) (Source: Microsoft-Windows-WindowsUpdateClient) (User: NT AUTHORITY)
Description: Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x80246007: Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5.1 on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 for x64-based Systems (KB2836942).
 
Error: (09/05/2013 03:04:34 AM) (Source: Microsoft-Windows-WindowsUpdateClient) (User: NT AUTHORITY)
Description: Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x80070002: Security Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2859537).
 
Error: (09/05/2013 03:04:34 AM) (Source: Microsoft-Windows-WindowsUpdateClient) (User: NT AUTHORITY)
Description: Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x80246007: Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5.1 on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 for x64-based Systems (KB2836943).
 
Error: (09/05/2013 03:04:34 AM) (Source: Microsoft-Windows-WindowsUpdateClient) (User: NT AUTHORITY)
Description: Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x80070002: Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008, Server 2008 R2 for x64 (KB2836939).
 
 
Microsoft Office Sessions:
=========================
Error: (09/06/2013 08:01:19 PM) (Source: WinMgmt)(User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003
 
Error: (09/05/2013 09:11:48 PM) (Source: WinMgmt)(User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:23 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service)(User: )
Description: 
Details:
The content index catalog is corrupt.  (HRESULT : 0xc0041801) (0xc0041801)
The catalog is corrupt
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:23 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service)(User: )
Description: 
Details:
The content index catalog is corrupt.  (HRESULT : 0xc0041801) (0xc0041801)
4400
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:23 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service)(User: )
Description: 
Details:
The content index catalog is corrupt.  (HRESULT : 0xc0041801) (0xc0041801)
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:23 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service)(User: )
Description: Context: Windows Application
 
 
Details:
The content index catalog is corrupt.  (HRESULT : 0xc0041801) (0xc0041801)
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:23 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service)(User: )
Description: Context: Windows Application, SystemIndex Catalog
 
 
Details:
The content index catalog is corrupt.  (HRESULT : 0xc0041801) (0xc0041801)
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:23 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service)(User: )
Description: Context: Windows Application, SystemIndex Catalog
 
 
Details:
Element not found.  (HRESULT : 0x80070490) (0x80070490)
Search.TripoliIndexer
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:20 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service)(User: )
Description: Context: Windows Application, SystemIndex Catalog
 
 
Details:
The content index catalog is corrupt.  (HRESULT : 0xc0041801) (0xc0041801)
Search.JetPropStore
 
Error: (09/05/2013 08:43:19 PM) (Source: Windows Search Service)(User: )
Description: Context: Windows Application, SystemIndex Catalog
 
 
Details:
The content index server cannot find a description of the content index in its database. Search will automatically attempt to recreate the content index description.  If this problem persists, stop and restart the search service and, if necessary, delete  and recreate the content index.  (HRESULT : 0x80041181) (0x80041181)
 
 
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========================= Memory info: ===================================
 
Percentage of memory in use: 18%
Total physical RAM: 15869.55 MB
Available physical RAM: 13005.32 MB
Total Pagefile: 31737.29 MB
Available Pagefile: 28672.87 MB
Total Virtual: 4095.88 MB
Available Virtual: 3968 MB
 
========================= Partitions: =====================================
 
1 Drive c: () (Fixed) (Total:184.84 GB) (Free:106.87 GB) NTFS
2 Drive d: (sunderland drive) (Fixed) (Total:1397.26 GB) (Free:800.71 GB) NTFS
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Posted 06 September 2013 - 07:50 PM

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 08:27 AM

Your hard drive SMART data reflects a status of "Warning".

 

A SATA-1 hard drive is not what I would consider a reliable bedrock to install an O/S on...the SMART status seems to agree with me.

 

I would categorically replace that hard drive without any further testing or use...but you can get a higher quality opinion re the smaller hard drive by posting your SMART data reflected on Speccy...in the Internal Hardware forum and seeking opinions of those more qualified to judge/assess the status.

 

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:48 AM

Hello Louis
Can you please explain in less technique information as I am struggling to understand
Thanks


Hello Louis
Are you trying to suggest that I use a solid state drive as my os drive
Thanks

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 12:53 PM

Not at all, although I think that's a good idea (considering what I consider to be the advantages of SSDs over SATA when it comes to O/S installation)..

 

SATA 1 drives are the oldest available.  A warranty on a new SATA-1 drive was probably a max of 3 years when they first debuted.  IDE/PATA drives are even older.

 

Even if these drives had been boxed/stored new after manufacture...they are technically inferior to SATA-2, SATA-3, SSD drives...if only because those drives probably benefit from "lessons learned" by manufacturers from those who used/use the older drives, IMO.

 

It makes no sense, IMO, to use more recent components in every other aspect of a computer system...and then turn around and use a hard drive that does not take advantage of later technology.  It would be like my building a system with my current CPU (which is a couple of years old) and then using an IDE or SATA-1 hard drive.  The hard drive is the base on which Windows is installed, it's the base of all files...why go with older technology for it?

 

BTW:  You can look at the label on the hard drive...to determine when it was produced.

 

Given the known failure rate of hard drives...I believe in putting Windows/programs on as new a drive as I can afford...data files I place on older drives because loss of those files via drive failure...is not at gut-renching as a failure of a drive reflecting the O/S and programs installed.  And...I do make routine backups, so the prospective loss of a drive really is not "gut-renching" for me, it's just a few minutes of disappointment and testing to ensure that the drive is the problem.

 

If you are wondering about "SMART" and the importance of it...see Article At Wikipedia .  It's almost impossible to talk about something that is technically complicated...in "general terms"...but if you read the first two paragraphs of the wikipedia article, that's what you need to know.  I'm not a computer/system technician of any sort, but I understand that SMART is a predictive tool for hard drive failure.  I don't get into attempting to analyze how reliable it is or what values are used, etc...I just know that my experiences have such that I accept a SMART warning at face value.

 

If you visit the Internal Hardware forum...one of the regulars or visitors there will probably be glad to go into great detail about the values reflected for your drive.  That's probably a good thing to do to reaffirm/refulte my interpretation because...as I said, I just take a SMART warning at face value in the same way that I would take a tornado warning...I prepare for the worst :).

 

In fact, I'll just move this topic to Internal Hardware where the more knowledgeable abide :).

 

Louis


Edited by hamluis, 07 September 2013 - 12:55 PM.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 01:18 PM

Let me throw my two cents in here.

 

Your System drive (C:) is a old slow 5400RPM drive, That will Slow You down all by itself. Quite often a failing hard drive will still boot Windows but run it very slow. It looks to be a 2.5" Laptop drive. Not a good choice for a desktop system.

 

Then the Speccy information shows warning for status on both hard drives.

 

Are You reusing old hard drives? I would unhook the larger drive after backing up any information on it that you would hate to loose.

I would replace the System (C:) drive. With at least a SATA3 drive 7200RPM. Personal Opinion is that I would use a Samsung or Intel SSD drive. I have one computer without a SSD system drive and that is because it is under warranty and Windows 8 boots fast on it anyway. I would make a SSD drive at least 200Plus Gbs in size. I would make a regular drive 1Tb or 2TB in size.

 

The next thing to check is are You using the drivers from the Motherboard maker? Any drivers that Windows installs at install time are going to be generic and provide less than optimal performance and features.

 

I Await your response.

 

Good Luck

Roger

 

P.S. As does Louis I take the S.M.A.R.T. warnings seriously. They are coming from the drive itself. Modern hard drives continuously monitor how they are performing and when they detect a problem they will provide that warning. One of the reasons I take those warnings to heart is that the Drive manufacturers set the limits that trip a warning and they know their drives best.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 05:03 PM

Hello
Thankyou for your posts I have taken your advise and I am looking into get a ssd or a hybrid as I can get bigger capacity and the same speeds but I will have to wait a while to have sufficient funds I will try and write back to you after I have done this
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 09:51 PM

Just a quick thought, A Hybrid does not give the same speed as a SSD, It is slower. If the performance were the same there would be no market for a SSD drive.

 

Also Your Video is not good for gaming, according to Speccy you are using the built-in video and not a good Gaming video card.

 

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:00 PM

Hello
Yes I understand that it is not as fast but the size:speed:price ratio is better
And yes I know this but do not know where to look for a compatible card
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:20 PM

Not to mention You only say slow. Not where is it slow.

Internet?

Boot time?

Games?

Working with Video?

Slow everywhere?

 

More details there would help too, Otherwise Louis and I can only give Generic advice, Rather than targeted to the problem advice.

For help with a upgraded Video try this forum and post the Motherboard Model, Power Supply as a good card can be power hungry and what games You want to run. http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/f/139/system-building-and-upgrading/

You can put a link back here for reference if you want to too.

 

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 06:13 PM

hello
yes i should have been more informative, but my problem is the system is fast but seems slow if that makes sense, i meen i have a less powerful quad core @2.5 with 4 gb of ram that seems faster that is my problem, this includes everything so yes slow in general, and yes i will look into that forum for a compatible graphics card 
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 06:02 PM

Hello
I would like to update that I took your advise andI have recently bought and installed my O.S. On a solid state drive, I am also saving up for a gtx 660 3gb ftw edition,
thankyou for all your assistance

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 06:28 PM

Glad to hear that You are on track with a solution.

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